AA Down Under and Trans Pac?

[MAH4546]

American has the largest share of LAX-Latin America excluding Mexico. And AA is about to go bonkers with expansion from LA to Mexico and Central America, BZE, GDL and MEX are just the start. It will easily steal the crown.

 

[WorldTraveler]

that's funny that you want to exclude Mexico since AA's top market from LAX to Latin America is SJD.

and your statement isn't even accurate either. DL is the number one airline from LAX to Central America - the market segment DL is most focused on from LAX to Central America.

DL doesn't fly from LAX to S. America (yet) while AA flies LAX to GRU and gets average fares that are lower than its average fares from DFW. perhaps AA is trying to push KE out of the LAX-GRU market - which could easily happen given the weak travel market from Brazil - because doing so will help AA become stronger partners with KE.

 

[Platinum Steve]

Thanks for the airliners.net suggestion, LDV. I found a fascinating thread from 2010 that addressed the DL gate issue back when NW was moving in with DL.

According to that thread, DL has access to only 3 international widebody gates. That's about what I thought they had. But here's the bigger issue: the FIS in T5 is (according to that thread) too small to handle more than one 777/330 at a time. So, while DL may be able to manage the gate situation, the passenger processing may prove to be the bigger hurdle. Does anyone know if that situation has changed? Has the T5 FIS been expanded to handle more passengers?

 

[diamondcutter]

if he flies out of LAX as much as he says he does, all he has to do is look across the tarmac to DL's operation.and given that the T4-5 connector is open, he would be even better suited to go look at the operation himself.but if he wants to ask someone so he can hold onto his hope that DL will run out of gate space and will no longer be able to be the number 1 int'l airline at LAX, to Asia, and to Latin America, then by all means ask all the people he wants.but Steve isn't interested in operational information; if he was, he appears to be smart enough to go look at the DL operation and see the multiple 777s, 744s, and 330s parked at the same time that 767s are at the gate. He's solely interested in trying to come up with some hope that AA can do at LAX in the international market what it hasn't been able to do for years.

Thats not at all what Steve is saying nor asking ! Stop with the spin off the topic with DL is this and that!!! You posted way back that DL would match AA with any new Asian flight, so where would they get the gates. All you have said is DL WILL get it , HOW WILL THEY GET MORE GATES ?? Not who is number one or who have the highest revenue or how AA is doing. He is asking HOW WOULD THEY GET THE GATES ,plain and simple!!!

 

[Platinum Steve]

Thanks, Diamond. That is exactly what I'm asking. WT made his flight-for-flight pronouncement, which seemed to be physically impossible. That now appears to have been proven by multiple sources (including WT himself, ironically). This FIS issue would appear to be the nail in the coffin for DL to do much more of anything at T5 to counter AA's expansion at LAX. Therefore, if they are really going to put up a fight, they're going to have to do it somewhere else on the property. Where is now the big question.

 

[robbedagain]

Steve  While DL will have a large operation at LAX  however their intl expansion wont be as big at LAX which is why they chose SEA   Don't get me wrong  DL will have some intl flights out of LAX but in the end AA will have more

 

[MAH4546]

DL doesn't fly from LAX to S. America (yet) while AA flies LAX to GRU and gets average fares that are lower than its average fares from DFW. perhaps AA is trying to push KE out of the LAX-GRU market - which could easily happen given the weak travel market from Brazil - because doing so will help AA become stronger partners with KE.

 
LOL. "Yet." 
 
Delta lost the LAX battle. Move on. 

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

In addition to noticing how World Fraudster deflects and spins and cannot answer a simple question, does anybody else find it fascinating that currently he is touting the DL average fare advantage.  However, when it is pointed out that AA's average fare on JFK-LAX blows DL out of the water, the advantage changes to total revenue, or total # of seats, or cargo, or some other metric (real or more often fabricated).  LOL! 

 

[robbedagain]

sure did notice Frugal  its his typical motto    Anything against DL and he goes bananas    the clown needs very serious mental help    He so stuck up DL tail its pathetically sad

 

[WorldTraveler]

Since DL is already LAX' largest international airline, DL has won

AA won only if the most flights to Oklahoma is winning

And the T5 FIS was expanded. T4 has its own FIS?

How is shrinking revenue winning which is what AA did in JFK LAX?

No. 4 in JFK SFO headed for gets little even with high average fares

 

[Kev3188]

What's the new throughput rate?

 

[Platinum Steve]

Kev - are you asking about the FIS at T5?  Or is that a new WT performance metric related to the efficiency of DL in handling all green and yellow luggage?

 

[WorldTraveler]

500 pax per hour IIRC...and for T4? Anyone?

AA...the most service to Oklahoma from LAX

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

AA...the most service to Oklahoma from LAX

 
DL .... the most service to Hazzard county (1-stop via ATL, ofcourse).
 

 

 

[LDVAviation]

Thanks, Diamond. That is exactly what I'm asking. WT made his flight-for-flight pronouncement, which seemed to be physically impossible. That now appears to have been proven by multiple sources (including WT himself, ironically). This FIS issue would appear to be the nail in the coffin for DL to do much more of anything at T5 to counter AA's expansion at LAX. Therefore, if they are really going to put up a fight, they're going to have to do it somewhere else on the property. Where is now the big question.

 
It is not an open question.  It's T2 or nowhere.  But that would require a busing operation for passengers and baggage and it might not be worth it for just one or two flights.