AA and US merger?

[eolesen]

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And UA could still be interested in US absent the DCA operation... they just won't succeed at a merger that includes DCA... but to be honest, US is at the size in DCA that a merger w/ ANYONE won't work.

Not entirely true. US could probably merge with Spirit, Jetblue, Hawaiian, Frontier, Allegiant or Alaska, and the DCA presence wouldn't be a huge concern.... They just can't merge with someone larger than they are and avoid scrutiny/slot divestitures.

 

[RevThruster]

I am an AAer and the majority of my posts are to and about AA. How about you? Check the mirror, perhaps you are channeling your own dreams of working for AA. Why so many posts here and about it?

No hatred, just a lack of understanding to a group of usair employees posting endlessly about how great "U" is and the disillutional dream of a marriage.

FYI: The first pull of the rug from under your feet is AA using its own DIP financing. Look for more raod blocks to your AA dreams.


Really Pot meet Kettle.

For starters, I don't work for an airline. So that makes 95% of you post invalid. Second, it is telling how you read an article and then form an opinion and post it as fact [i.e. DIP financing] - Do you even know what DIP financing is? I doubt it. I have no dreams to work for AA, my profession is much different than yours, and it is CERTAINLY not my dream to work for an airline that just entered CH. 11 Bankruptcy [I am perplexed at how you would think anyone is dying to work for AA]. AA [or any airline] could never fund my way of life "comfortably" with family and kids - that is a fact!

 

[ebwgs]

My apologies. I looked back and saw that etops1 double posted on the "bet" with WT. Thought it was you.

So, to clarify, your posting here on the AA board and just about every AA+US merger thread is to say "nobody knows"?

So why is it when a US fan posts that US and AA will merge, you're silent, and when an AA fan says , "no we won't" you burn up your keyboard posting.... "nobody knows".......??

AAviator I'm glad you posed this question to me. If you reference a post of yours that I responded to on 2DEC11 @1244 on page 12 of this thread then you'll know how I feel. It even pissed off a US poster if you read down a few posts. However a more appropriate response would have been "I disagree."

 

[AAviator]

AAviator I'm glad you posed this question to me. If you reference a post of yours that I responded to on 2DEC11 @1244 on page 12 of this thread then you'll know how I feel. It even pissed off a US poster if you read down a few posts. However a more appropriate response would have been "I disagree."

You say US employees are just as uninformed one time because you get called on it? Yet your flood of remarks to the AA side.....

Nevermind.

 

[signals]

I posted at another thread that, Bloomberg News is saying that the $4.1 billion cash on hand that AA has will keep it protected from any takeover attempt.

Bite AA, US

 

[ebwgs]

You say US employees are just as uninformed one time because you get called on it? Yet your flood of remarks to the AA side.....

Nevermind.

Yes drop it.

 

[ebwgs]

I posted at another thread that, Bloomberg News is saying that the $4.1 billion cash on hand that AA has will keep it protected from any takeover attempt.

Bite AA, US

Did you actually read the Bloomberg article? For the sake of AA one hopes the $4 billion dollars will be enough to get them through their filing. In addressing this concern the article also stated "The airline’s likeliest sources for more cash in Chapter 11 would be companies with which it already has a relationship, said Will Randow, an analyst at Citigroup Inc. (C) in New York. American used about $1 billion cash in the third quarter and about $500 million since then, Randow said, making him skeptical of the airline’s assertions of having sufficient cash." But the article also referenced an AA sugar daddy stating "Citigroup, the credit-card partner for American’s AAdvantage loyalty program, would be “highly likely” to help with financing if AMR asks, Straebler said. New York-based Citigroup helped American raise $1 billion in 2009 through the advance purchase of frequent-flier miles." So chances are AA will make it through this filing without the need for DIP. But once again, at this time no one knows for sure how this situation will play out.

 

[AAviator]

Did you actually read the Bloomberg article? For the sake of AA one hopes the $4 billion dollars will be enough to get them through their filing. In addressing this concern the article also stated "The airline’s likeliest sources for more cash in Chapter 11 would be companies with which it already has a relationship, said Will Randow, an analyst at Citigroup Inc. (C) in New York. American used about $1 billion cash in the third quarter and about $500 million since then, Randow said, making him skeptical of the airline’s assertions of having sufficient cash." But the article also referenced an AA sugar daddy stating "Citigroup, the credit-card partner for American’s AAdvantage loyalty program, would be “highly likely” to help with financing if AMR asks, Straebler said. New York-based Citigroup helped American raise $1 billion in 2009 through the advance purchase of frequent-flier miles." So chances are AA will make it through this filing without the need for DIP. But once again, at this time no one knows for sure how this situation will play out.

Translated, In LCC-ese,.........

 

[ebwgs]

Translated, In LCC-ese,.........

ROTFLMAO!!! Once again the world seen through cross eyed eagle eyes.

 

[damajagua]

Keep American, My American!!!!

 

[RevThruster]

Keep American, My American!!!!

I would say, YES! Keep American your American - and we will see how you progress in the next decade. You are already paid poorly and keeping American, YOUR AMERICAN, will drive your wages even lower. It amazes me the lack of knowledge that flows here out of pure emotion. complete insanity imo.

 

[Maark767]

I would say, YES! Keep American your American - and we will see how you progress in the next decade. You are already paid poorly and keeping American, YOUR AMERICAN, will drive your wages even lower. It amazes me the lack of knowledge that flows here out of pure emotion. complete insanity imo.

Sure we'll take the cuts. Do we want the cuts? Of course not...... The shinning star in all this BK mess, is that AA will emerge one lean and mean competitor. With the huge aircraft oder and a low cost structure, AA will once again become an industry leader. There will me no AA/US merger. AA is going to grow on it's own and become a power house airline.

 

[Us/boston]

They will merge [or be purchased] by/with UAL - putting AMR in an even worse place than they are in right now.

I agree. United needs a S/E hub. If they get it they will be the perfect airline. CLT is not ATL we all know that but its not bad as a hub. PHL creates its own traffic so will not take away from EWR. PHX would be downsized giving SW some room to grow there and have less competition so that should keep them quiet. UAL and US are not done yet. It would be best for the industry for US/AA to merge and create the final 3 legacy carriers but if not UAL and US could finally do the deed. If this were to happen then AA would become the new US. Lean and mean but too small to really be a pain to anyone. A low cost/low pay airline with no one to merge with and no way to grow. I'm sure they would be fine for a while but is that what they really want to be. One last possibility is the break up of AA. I'm sure UAL Delta and Us would be happy to reach into there currently deep pockets and buy from the creditors what suits them. Only time will tell.

 

[Maark767]

I agree. United needs a S/E hub. If they get it they will be the perfect airline. CLT is not ATL we all know that but its not bad as a hub. PHL creates its own traffic so will not take away from EWR. PHX would be downsized giving SW some room to grow there and have less competition so that should keep them quiet. UAL and US are not done yet. It would be best for the industry for US/AA to merge and create the final 3 legacy carriers but if not UAL and US could finally do the deed. If this were to happen then AA would become the new US. Lean and mean but too small to really be a pain to anyone. A low cost/low pay airline with no one to merge with and no way to grow. I'm sure they would be fine for a while but is that what they really want to be. One last possibility is the break up of AA. I'm sure UAL Delta and Us would be happy to reach into there currently deep pockets and buy from the creditors what suits them. Only time will tell.

AA is going to be a huge low cost carrier when it emerges from BK. AA does not need US to become larger than it is today. With A319s on the way , AA will be going back into many many lost markets. Dont forget the our big Oneworld partners BA/IB who will also be feeding AA's domestic network for additional revenue. I think UAL would be a better fit for US, not AA.

 

[damajagua]

I would say, YES! Keep American your American - and we will see how you progress in the next decade. You are already paid poorly and keeping American, YOUR AMERICAN, will drive your wages even lower. It amazes me the lack of knowledge that flows here out of pure emotion. complete insanity imo.

Why woudl you or anyone want to be associated with American then?