There still seems to be the idea that AA would come out on top. Really? Why in the world would US want AA as a whole entity? AArrogance, labor problems, poor industry customer service perception (not that I agree) and still the mess of the prior merger. In a bk situation (unless it is a pre-pack) all bets are off. If an acquisition is going to happen it has been planned for a long time (like the TWA acquisiton). The TWA deal was carefully planned so that ALL the financial warts were properly placed. From the outside it is deja vu....
AA and US Merge?
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There still seems to be the idea that AA would come out on top. Really? Why in the world would US want AA as a whole entity? AArrogance, labor problems, poor industry customer service perception (not that I agree) and still the mess of the prior merger. In a bk situation (unless it is a pre-pack) all bets are off. If an acquisition is going to happen it has been planned for a long time (like the TWA acquisiton). The TWA deal was carefully planned so that ALL the financial warts were properly placed. From the outside it is deja vu....
FYI..... This "mess" that AA is in is only TEMPORARY. See you have to read between the lines. Once these contracts are signed, the new jets start coming and the BA/IB/JAL alliance is up and running, you'll see a new face of AA. All this doom is contract related. Mark my words!
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You're quite correct - the ink on the last contract signed won't be dry 'til they're spending money like drunken sailors (my apologies to the Navy guys out there - even the Marines).
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DId you just refer to the Marines as Sailors????
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Uncle Sam's Misguided Children are a branch of the Navy, you know ...
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Now I am not a Marine, however the ones I have encountered have been very clear that the Navy just pays them and provides them transport. What was it the Lt. Kendrick told Tom Cuise in "A Few Good Men"? "NO, I like all of you Navy boys. Every time we'vegotta go some place to fight, you fellas give us a ride.
Frank Szabo
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I was Navy and try not to miss any opportunities - went to Navy jet school in Memphis with quite a few of the Marines.Now I am not a Marine, however the ones I have encountered have been very clear that the Navy just pays them and provides them transport. What was it the Lt. Kendrick told Tom Cuise in "A Few Good Men"? "NO, I like all of you Navy boys. Every time we'vegotta go some place to fight, you fellas give us a ride.
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Yes the Marine Corps is part of the navy. But the squids understood that ther position in life was to be subserviant to the Marine Corps.
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Yes, the Marines are a department of the Navy... The Mens Department....Yes the Marine Corps is part of the navy. But the squids understood that ther position in life was to be subserviant to the Marine Corps.
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That is correct MEN and sailors!
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i smell more like it
not looking good for American Airlines
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-amr-shares-idUSTRE79K5QV20111021?feedType=RSS&feedName=globalMarketsNews&rpc=43
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-21/amr-declines-after-morningstar-analyst-sees-bankruptcy-in-future.html?cmpid=yhoo
http://blog.chron.com/lorensteffy/2011/10/amr-usairways-the-next-airline-merger/
AMR-USAirways: The next airline merger?
Despite the struggles of United and Continental Airlines to complete their merger, other airlines can’t seem to resist the urge to merge. The United deal and the combination of Delta and Northwest has caused the lonely American Airlines to go from the biggest to third-biggest U.S. carrier.
On a conference call today, Tom Horton, the president of American’s parent company, hinted that American could be looking for a dance partner, according to SkyTalk’s Andrea Ahles.
In response to a question by TheStreet.com’s Ted Reed, Horton said that he believes there could be “further consolidation” in the U.S. airline industry.
“Does that include you?” Reed asked.
“Yeah, it could,” Horton said.
And just who might American be eying as a merger partner? Well, there aren’t that many candidates left. USAirways chief executive Doug Parker deflected the issue of a merger when it came up during an interview with a TV reporter earlier this week. Parker said the carrier remains a “happy stand alone airline.”
Oxymorons aside, US Air now finds itself in the basement of domestic carriers and if it hopes to compete it may need to get bigger. At the same time, the airline is still working out labor issues from its merger with America West six years ago. It’s not clear if American would want to absorb those problems just in hopes to getting bigger.
A merger like that might make the United-Continental combination look like a cake walk.
"American Airlines parent AMR Corp. (AMR) fell 6.6 percent, the fourth decline in six trading sessions, after a Morningstar analyst said he concluded that the company “will succumb to bankruptcy.”
The shares dropped to $2.69 at 4:15 p.m. in New York, capping a day in which they rose as much as 2.4 percent and fell as far 10 percent. Labor costs put Fort Worth, Texas-based AMR at a disadvantage to peers, and the carrier’s “viability is in jeopardy,” Morningstar’s Basili Alukos said in a report today. "
please don't kill the messenger
not looking good for American Airlines
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-amr-shares-idUSTRE79K5QV20111021?feedType=RSS&feedName=globalMarketsNews&rpc=43
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-21/amr-declines-after-morningstar-analyst-sees-bankruptcy-in-future.html?cmpid=yhoo
http://blog.chron.com/lorensteffy/2011/10/amr-usairways-the-next-airline-merger/
AMR-USAirways: The next airline merger?
Despite the struggles of United and Continental Airlines to complete their merger, other airlines can’t seem to resist the urge to merge. The United deal and the combination of Delta and Northwest has caused the lonely American Airlines to go from the biggest to third-biggest U.S. carrier.
On a conference call today, Tom Horton, the president of American’s parent company, hinted that American could be looking for a dance partner, according to SkyTalk’s Andrea Ahles.
In response to a question by TheStreet.com’s Ted Reed, Horton said that he believes there could be “further consolidation” in the U.S. airline industry.
“Does that include you?” Reed asked.
“Yeah, it could,” Horton said.
And just who might American be eying as a merger partner? Well, there aren’t that many candidates left. USAirways chief executive Doug Parker deflected the issue of a merger when it came up during an interview with a TV reporter earlier this week. Parker said the carrier remains a “happy stand alone airline.”
Oxymorons aside, US Air now finds itself in the basement of domestic carriers and if it hopes to compete it may need to get bigger. At the same time, the airline is still working out labor issues from its merger with America West six years ago. It’s not clear if American would want to absorb those problems just in hopes to getting bigger.
A merger like that might make the United-Continental combination look like a cake walk.
"American Airlines parent AMR Corp. (AMR) fell 6.6 percent, the fourth decline in six trading sessions, after a Morningstar analyst said he concluded that the company “will succumb to bankruptcy.”
The shares dropped to $2.69 at 4:15 p.m. in New York, capping a day in which they rose as much as 2.4 percent and fell as far 10 percent. Labor costs put Fort Worth, Texas-based AMR at a disadvantage to peers, and the carrier’s “viability is in jeopardy,” Morningstar’s Basili Alukos said in a report today. "
please don't kill the messenger
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Then, once and for all, AA needs to file already and move on....These analysts must all read each others reports and articles...
They are offfering the SAME opinions like parrots.
The only thing that will appease these ilks are screwing employees, take their pensions and screw creditors.
But of course, leave the executives be!
They are offfering the SAME opinions like parrots.
The only thing that will appease these ilks are screwing employees, take their pensions and screw creditors.
But of course, leave the executives be!
JFK Fleet Service
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Of course their contracts are sacrosanct, one does not simply abrogate an executives contract, that is only for the hourly peon.I mean what would AA do without being able to retain the talent that has managed this airline into the ground these past few years?
Thanks for the info, Mr. Arpey.
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