AA Agents ratify first contract

[700UW]

If you read any of the threads, I would have voted against there TA, I dont believe in outsourcing and giving up jobs.
 
But its their right to vote and they ratified it, and there will be cuts and outsourcing.
 
Just like in 2008 when the Ramp at US and HP reached a TA, the PMUS people warned the PMHP not to vote for the money, look at scope, well they didnt listen and the ratified the TA and 20 fleet stations were gone.
 
I dont care about the AFL-CIO, I care about scope language.

 

[Rogallo]

 

 
But its their right to vote and they ratified it, and there will be cuts and outsourcing.
 

 
Can't wait for the outsourcing specifics on the deal for M&R!
 
Coming soon. Stay tuned!!

 

[swamt]

If you read any of the threads, I would have voted against there TA, I dont believe in outsourcing and giving up jobs.
 
But its their right to vote and they ratified it, and there will be cuts and outsourcing.
 
Just like in 2008 when the Ramp at US and HP reached a TA, the PMUS people warned the PMHP not to vote for the money, look at scope, well they didnt listen and the ratified the TA and 20 fleet stations were gone.
 
I dont care about the AFL-CIO, I care about scope language.

I was figuring that the company was gonna get something as well.  ALWAYS, on the first contract to a brand new represented group, the company will pay for the massive outsourcing coming in the future that they hope will slip by "most" of the membership when they "focus" on the $$$ 30% increases.  
I bet the company was even successful in getting a rather large amount of part timers to be pulled in to save on benefit cost.  Glad to see them get represented, but the question is at what cost? teamsters are well known for a rather large amount of outsourcing for higher pay. Just look at past teamster contracts here at SWA, and soon coming to UAL, and also at UPS.  They will more than likely see some future reductions in some form of fashion, so sorry to hear about the outsourcing language, but it is typical of the teamsters to allow it...

 

[Worldport]

Even with 99% of the 4500 that didn't vote, had they voted NO, it would still have past. Not disappointing at all, the membership has spoken and money talks.  

Unpopular statement true however.  Same outcome will happen with the rest of  us

 

[700UW]

Swa,

PMUS RES and CSA were Union since 1999 and their association was created in 2005.

 

[eolesen]

Only 6993 out of 15,000 voted yes?  That's about 47% with a generous round-up.
 
Let's see how long it takes to decertify the CWA....

 

[Worldport]

Only 6993 out of 15,000 voted yes?  That's about 47% with a generous round-up.
 
Let's see how long it takes to decertify the CWA....

The 4000 that didnt vote are apathetic and wouldn't bother to vote for decertification

 

[700UW]

Only 6993 out of 15,000 voted yes?  That's about 47% with a generous round-up.
 
Let's see how long it takes to decertify the CWA....

I will take that bet, it's nearly impossible to decertify under the RLA.

 

[dfw gen]

I will take that bet, it's nearly impossible to decertify under the RLA.

We are painfully aware of that fact!

 

[1AA]

Spoke to a pax agent. There was a issue with people that never got ballot information mailed to them in time after requesting for one. There are or have been complaints filed to the DOL. I doubt it will do anything. She said a significant amount were affected. Significant? Who knows how many. They also traded holiday pay for 2 weeks of vacation. Top VC is seven weeks. The ten paid holiday pay was more money at double time. There were other concessions as well. Too many to remember. Big one was a very restrictive CS policy. Not good for commuting. I see the same coming to the M&E. Their 401K match was left at 5.5%. No signing bonus.

 

[AANOTOK]

Some people would rather have the two weeks away from the place. I don't necessarily see that as a concession.
As some here like to say, it's not always about the money.

 

[WeAAsles]

Some people would rather have the two weeks away from the place. I don't necessarily see that as a concession.
As some here like to say, it's not always about the money.

From what I understood they can trade out the Holliday pay for 2 extra weeks of vacation? (Sign me up for that plan)

I've also heard that many who didn't get ballots were because they never authorized dues check off to begin once the TA possibly became ratified on the AA side? You basically have to "officially" join the Union before they'll send you a chance to vote on things.

These people better get on the ball fast or they may find themselves out of a job. Closed Shop under the RLA.

 

[Worldport]

Spoke to a pax agent. There was a issue with people that never got ballot information mailed to them in time after requesting for one. There are or have been complaints filed to the DOL. I doubt it will do anything. She said a significant amount were affected. Significant? Who knows how many. They also traded holiday pay for 2 weeks of vacation. Top VC is seven weeks. The ten paid holiday pay was more money at double time. There were other concessions as well. Too many to remember. Big one was a very restrictive CS policy. Not good for commuting. I see the same coming to the M&E. Their 401K match was left at 5.5%. No signing bonus.

You are still getting straight time for the holiday you work+ the vacations are of course paid. When it was regular time + time and a half that's a different story

 

[1AA]

Some people would rather have the two weeks away from the place. I don't necessarily see that as a concession.
As some here like to say, it's not always about the money.

So if they offered to AMTs and we get 7 weeks of VC. So we get back what we gave up in 2003 in vc but have to give up holiday pay to restore our vc allotment. That's a concession!!

 

[john john]

CWA/IBT negotiated a concessionary contract for the LUS airport agents The company needed this contract to complete the merger CWA/IBT had major leverage at the barging table with the Passenger System cutover as well as having some of the best scope in the industry only to be giving away with a letter of agreement with out a vote from membership while still in negotiations moreover CWA/IBT was the only union on the property to be in section 6 direct negotiations under the RLA unlike the rest of the employees groups in joint contract negotiations
CWA represented Piedmont Express and now Envoy getting CWA representation as well with this representation CWA/IBT is allowing the company to whipsaw the union groups work allowing the mainline work to go to express taking away from mainline employees. CWA/IBT Gave up scope by allowing up to 5 mainline jets a day to be outsourced. Allowing a whole different work classification with lower pay to do Passenger Service Work. Allowing all baggage service to be outsourced. Allowing all wheelchairs and unaccompanied minors to be outsourced. Allowing all curbside to be outsourced. Allowing junior part-time employees to get fulltime jobs before senior full -timers. Leaving health care insurance cost at the company discretion. The company saw a hole and took advantage of it with home base reservations and office base reservations and LAA allowing the LUS airport agents contract to be Gutted of scope. The LUS airport agents were served up
The CWA/IBT leadership said this was the absolutely the best they could do.All airport CWA president east of the Mississippi were against this contract and were ignored "so be it"