6 Muslin Imams remove from US Airways Flight

[UAL_TECH]

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing"

That quote applies to the 1.6 "horrified" who sat on theie collective hands and did NOTHING post 9/11.

No sane individual would argue that 90 to 95 percent of the islamic community are good, hard working, Allah fearing men and women.

However until those 1.6 million folks are willing to stand up and condemn the actions of the few and join the civilized world I'm perfectly content to kill them all and let God sort them out.

You just have to face facts that some islamic fundamentalists come here to kill us.

Good advice Bob.
B) UT

 

[Gilding the Lily]

I'm perfectly content to kill them all and let God sort them out.

I think I have heard something like this once before. That's right... it was coming from a short man with a mustache in Berlin during the late 1930's.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

An article in the AZ Republic today.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1202imams1202.html

 

[Trip Confirmed]

I knew it. They are sueing USAIR for all they can get.

Of course, that was the plan. Suicide belts and mosques on American soil are expensive.

As an aside, check the next time you see ANY statement,anywhere, from them where they don't use the word "ignorant" about anyone opposed.

If I see it one more time I'll scream.

How much money will this suit take away from employees?

But if they get it, expect a 10 times increase in these staged "humiliations".

Islam plans to sue America into submission.

 

[Art at ISP]

What part of the incident was based on behavior not race don't they get?

There were other Muslims on board who also applauded the actions of the crew.

Piney Bob's post is right on point....although I don't agree with killing them all and letting God sort it out.

It's like the old saying--if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem....

WHY does mainstream Islam remain silent?????????

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Mohamed al-Sharkawy, chairman of the Arizona chapter of the Council for American Islamic Relations and an employee of the airline, said airline Chairman Doug Parker told employees after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that discrimination would not be tolerated. Already labeled as discrimination! :down:

Al-Sharkawy, who did not attend the gathering, said the airline employs numerous Muslims, including pilots and flight attendants. What does that have to do with anything? The issue is with the 6 individuals and not employees who happen to be Muslims. How would this be perceived if the airline employee(s) involved were Muslim?

He said the issue could have been defused at several points, and he hoped the airline's investigation will result in policies aimed at averting similar problems in the future.

He pointed out that one of the imams, Omar Shahin, is a regular customer of the airline. All are well-known to Phoenix authorities, he said. But not in MSP! <_<

He added that, as Council for American Islamic Relations chairman, he requested a meeting with airline executives. They declined. I would think it would be very delicate and touchy situation to have a meeting with the chairman, especially one who also happens to be an employee.

 

[Trip Confirmed]

I'll respond with a quote I read a while back, and kept..

"Because they secretly agree. Understand it now or understand it later,there is really no mainstream Islam.
There is only one Islam. They follow the Koran, or they aren't Muslims.

The Koran says murder anyone who is not Muslim"

 

[Art at ISP]

Where does it say in the Koran to murder anyone who is not Muslim?
I cannot believe that any religion would support such behavior?

That said, Omar Shahin has known ties to terrorist organizations. What is he still doing in the United States??????

Maybe Bob is right after all......

 

[Trip Confirmed]

Where does it say in the Koran to murder anyone who is not Muslim?
I cannot believe that any religion would support such behavior?


Get yourself a koran, read it.Every word. It's also available, translated on the internet.
But to answer your question..here you go.

Direct quotes from the Quran:

ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)

And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)

When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)

And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)

FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)

FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)

O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. (9:73)

O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (9:123)

I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)

And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors. Is it then the judgment of the times of ignorance that they desire: and who is better than Allah to judge for a people who are sure? O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)

The punishment of those who pit themselves against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, except those who repent before you have them in your power (5:33-34)

THEY DESIRE THAT YOU SHOULD DISBELIEVE AS THEY HAVE DISBELIEVED, SO THAT YOU MIGHT BE ALL ALIKE; THEREFORE TAKE NOT FROM AMONG THEM FRIENDS UNTIL THEY FLY THEIR HOMES IN ALLAH'S WAY; BUT IF THEY TURN BACK, THEN SEIZE THEM AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE NOT FROM AMONG THEM A FRIEND OR A HELPER. (4:89)

As for those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the punishment (4:56)

Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah - they shall have a severe punishment; and Allah is Mighty, the lord of retribution. (3:4)

Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)" (Hadith 4:52:196)

The Prophet said, "The one who commits an illegal sexual intercourse is not a believer at the time of committing illegal sexual intercourse and a thief is not a believer at the time of committing theft and a drinker of alcoholic drink is not a believer at the time of drinking. Yet, (the gate of) repentance is open thereafter." (Hadith 8:82:801)


"If they find you, they will be your enemies, and will stretch forth towards you their hands and their tongues with evil, and they ardently desire that you may disbelieve. Your relationship would not profit you, nor your children, on the day of resurrection; He will decide between you; and Allah sees what you do. Indeed, there is for you a good example in Abraham and those with him when they said to their people: Surely we are clear of you and of what you serve besides Allah; WE DECLARE OURSELVES TO BE CLEAR OF YOU, AND ENMITY AND HATRED HAVE APPEARED BETWEEN US AND YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH ALONE (60:2-4)


Any questions? And I just read USAIR has muslim pilots and crew?
Damned scary. I know airlines must be PC.Still damned scary.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

Where does it say in the Koran to murder anyone who is not Muslim?
I cannot believe that any religion would support such behavior?

That said, Omar Shahin has known ties to terrorist organizations. What is he still doing in the United States??????

Maybe Bob is right after all......

Mr. Shahin says he cut ties to KindHearts after the Treasury Department began investigating the group, that "true Muslims" do not murder and were not responsible for the attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center.
"If they claim they are Muslim, they are wrong," Mr. Shahin said yesterday in a telephone interview. "Despite what religion they claim, even if they are all Arabs, to say they are Muslims is wrong, completely wrong.
"We have been asked by God and by the prophet Muhammad to respect all human life. The Koran is very clear, to save one life he saves all human life, and whoever kills one person, he kills all humankind, and that is what Islam is all about."
Mr. Shahin was a representative and fundraiser for KindHearts, which the Treasury Department says "coordinated with Hamas leaders and made contributions to Hamas-affiliated organizations," in a Feb. 19 statement after freezing the groups' assets.........

Mr. Shahin lives in Phoenix and is the president of the North American Imam Federation, which serves the spiritual and tangible needs of Muslim scholars, helps them improve their relationship with the community, and encourages Muslims to observe the Islamic acts of worship.
He has a doctorate in Islamic law and is a professor at the Graduate Theological Foundation. He also received degrees in Islamic study from universities in Sudan and Saudi Arabia, and holds a diploma in Koranic recitation from the University of Jordan.
He is a native of Jordan and is a naturalized American citizen.





http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061201-121239-7193r.htm

 

[Trip Confirmed]

"true Muslims" do not murder and were not responsible for the attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center.

Damn, it must have been Swedish grandmothers..




The Koran is very clear,


It certainly is...

Mr. Shahin was a representative and fundraiser for KindHearts, which the Treasury Department says "coordinated with Hamas leaders and made contributions to Hamas-affiliated organizations,".........


He has a doctorate in Islamic law and is a professor at the Graduate Theological Foundation. He also received degrees in Islamic study from universities in Sudan and Saudi Arabia, and holds a diploma in Koranic recitation from the University of Jordan.

KORANIC RECITATION!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody catch that? You don't study it, you learn to recite it word for word. No questions allowed.

Any more questions, see the direct quotes from the koran listed above.

Mr.Shahin is a liar.

There is also a verse in the koran telling all muslims lying to ANY non muslim is allowed,for any reason.

 

[pitguy]

Outstanding posting Trip. Thank you!

 

[grinningbird]

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Keep it on subject and do not seek to inflame.

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Direct quotes from the Quran:

ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred... (8:65)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)

And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)

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I do not disagree that thos Koran says what you cited. However, are you taking those verses oot of context? Do they have another historical meaning? Were they important to the times but not to the present?

We all know that the Christian's Holy Bible has verses that say similar things! I am aware that these verses in the bible are taken out of context; but I am simply showing you so that the point may be established.

Go through...the midst of Jerusalem, and... smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women... (Ezekiel 9:4-6)

"But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)

Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies, that I might destroy them. (Samuel 22:40-42)

"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off.(Mark 9:43)

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

Interesting post that makes you think. Thanks