2015 Pilot Discussion.

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Res Judicata said:
REINSTATEMENT RIGHTS: Only real Union pilots have them. There's going to be a feeding frenzy of LAA and West pilots devouring the scabs I'll-gotten gains...and their attrition to boot. :lol:
More like the East and legacy American pilots ensuring our 2013 new hires keep their wide body jobs.

West will have priority to a 320 job in PHX which is all you brought to the merger.
 
Freighterguynow said:
More like the East and legacy American pilots ensuring our 2013 new hires keep their wide body jobs.
West will have priority to a 320 job in PHX which is all you brought to the merger.


And they should feel very lucky to have that.
 
luvthe9 said:
And they should feel very lucky to have that.
 
You're lucky to have gotten what the Nicolau gave you.  El Presidente Cleary said it best:
 
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[SIZE=12pt]US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)[/SIZE]
 
From a letter sent by Doug Parker:
 

“We have determined that the list submitted meets these criteria, so the company will accept the submitted list.”
 
cactusboy53 said:
From a letter sent by Doug Parker:
 

“We have determined that the list submitted meets these criteria, so the company will accept the submitted list.”

Why to insist on acting like an idiot.......you know very well the NIC is history and will not be used.


Come back to reality........BOA......fair and equitable. You're in for a very big let down.
 
luvthe9 said:
 
Holy crap.  Liar, how is it possible for you to be both the dimmest bulb here, the biggest liar here and remain a licensed ATP??
 
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Silverflyer330 said:
Why to insist on acting like an idiot.......you know very well the NIC is history and will not be used.  Come back to reality........BOA......fair and equitable. You're in for a very big let down.
 
In the matter of: Preliminary Arbitration Board APA/USAPA/AA (December 17, 2014)
 
ARBITRATOR JAVITS: All three lists. I guess the gravamen of the questions is are you then putting yourself in the place of Nicolau, are you the new Nicolau because you are proposing a list which may not reflect Nicolau's list? ….. And American pilots. And, therefore, you're making a proposal, which may be different than what Nicolau had in mind and issued back in '07.
 
MR. FREUND (in closing):As the Chairman put it so nicely in his questioning of Jess Pauley, what the US -- what the East Committee, the US Airways Committee, the USAPA Committee, call it what you want, what it wants to do is to put itself in the place of George Nicolau and redo what George did in 2007.
 
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Freund:   Okay.  And would it be fair to say that in looking at this slide, if one were to take the American pilots out, what we would see would be Rick Brown's substituted judgment as the new George Nicolau with respect to the relationship between the East pilots and the West pilots?
 
Insert Wilder’s objection that the question is argumentative….and yet…maybe the BOA gets it.  I think they do.  Hmmmmm, where have we seen this before??
 

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Res Judicata said:
REINSTATEMENT RIGHTS: Only real Union pilots have them. There's going to be a feeding frenzy of LAA and West pilots devouring the scabs I'll-gotten gains...and their attrition to boot. :lol:
APA Board voted in favor of the East.

The usual America West premature victory claim followed by an inevitable loss.
 
Freighterguynow said:
APA Board voted in favor of the East.

The usual America West premature victory claim followed by an inevitable loss.
 
Congrats, you now have 17e which you would have had at FOS in October.  I assume the east also got the requested retro back to 2013?
 
Would it not be just peachy if this decision put an ace up the West's sleeve?
 
Just remember....Seat..Domicile...Equipment..!!!!!
 
cactusboy53 said:
 
From a letter sent by Doug Parker:
 

“We have determined that the list submitted meets these criteria, so the company will accept the submitted list.”

 
 
 
Doug Parker wrote what he wrote, but you assumed he meant something he did not...
 
Its time for a grammar lesson... 
 
Parker wrote the  company "will" accept the list...  He did not write the company "has accepted" the list..
 
Details. Details.  Details.  When exactly "will" the company accept the list?   
 
All this time you have been saying "The company has accepted the list."  
 
Brush up on your grammar.  Learn the difference between "future" tense and "present perfect" tense.     
 
Fishy, Fishy, you are in the Fish Bowl School for a reason.  
 
Try to keep up.
 
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