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nevergiveup said:
Can you please reference where USAPA or the APA east committee has presented a DOH proposed.
Uhhmmm..it was the FIRST thing crafted in USAPA's Constitution & Bylaws. They attempted to deliver a DOH list with those "cute" conditions & restrictions to Mr. Parker on the Fall of 2008. The EPIC is championing the "Rick-o-lau", using 3 lists to now advantage a third-list pilot over a PHX based pilot (even WORSE than DOH).

Would you by chance know how to read? ALL of this is fact that can be read in USAPA updates, Leonidas updates, and the mountains of legal filings.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Uhhmmm..it was the FIRST thing crafted in USAPA's Constitution & Bylaws. They attempted to deliver a DOH list with those "cute" conditions & restrictions to Mr. Parker on the Fall of 2008. The EPIC is championing the "Rick-o-lau", using 3 lists to now advantage a third-list pilot over a PHX based pilot (even WORSE than DOH).
Would you by chance know how to read? ALL of this is fact that can be read in USAPA updates, Leonidas updates, and the mountains of legal filings.
Can you please reference where USAPA or the East APA committee has proposed doh in the current SLI process, or any SLI process for that matter. Feel free to copy and paste.
 
nevergiveup said:
Can you please reference where USAPA or the East APA committee has proposed doh in the current SLI process, or any SLI process for that matter. Feel free to copy and paste.
 
Look Dude, you REALLY have to start studying this stuff ON YOUR OWN.  Further it is REALLY tiring to SHOW YOU what & where INFORMATION is, only to have "you'se" fold your arms and hold your breath and claim "it's not true!".
 
  • CURRENT SLI:  The EPSIC DID NOT PROPOSE DATE OF HIRE.  They proposed something WORSE for the PHX based pilots.  They proposed a general relative integration whereby a "third-list" new hire was equal to a PHX based pilot hired in 2004.  The funny thing is this is the SAME complaint that USAPA made of the Nicolau List.  Please see the recent transcripts of the LUS/LAA Seniority Arbitration that has just concluded.
  • "ANY SLI":  US Air Merger Attorney Dan Katz, AAA/AWA SLI - December 4, 2006: 
    "Here we feel that can be done, and that is what we propose the arbitration panel should do.  Is to integrate the two seniority lists on the basis of date of hire, adjusted for furlough time that any pilot had through May 19, 2005, the date of the announcement of the merger, subject to temporary conditions and restrictions."
You can find ALL of these references at www.cactuspilot.com.  We have placed all of the unabridged legal filings and transcripts in a public forum.  All you have to do is sit down and READ for a few weeks.
 
PS  The sky actually is BLUE.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Look Dude, you REALLY have to start studying this stuff ON YOUR OWN.  Further it is REALLY tiring to SHOW YOU what & where INFORMATION is, only to have "you'se" fold your arms and hold your breath and claim "it's not true!".
 

  • CURRENT SLI:  The EPSIC DID NOT PROPOSE DATE OF HIRE.  They proposed something WORSE for the PHX based pilots.  They proposed a general relative integration whereby a "third-list" new hire was equal to a PHX based pilot hired in 2004.  The funny thing is this is the SAME complaint that USAPA made of the Nicolau List.  Please see the recent transcripts of the LUS/LAA Seniority Arbitration that has just concluded.
  • "ANY SLI":  US Air Merger Attorney Dan Katz, AAA/AWA SLI - December 4, 2006: 
    "Here we feel that can be done, and that is what we propose the arbitration panel should do.  Is to integrate the two seniority lists on the basis of date of hire, adjusted for furlough time that any pilot had through May 19, 2005, the date of the announcement of the merger, subject to temporary conditions and restrictions."
You can find ALL of these references at www.cactuspilot.com.  We have placed all of the unabridged legal filings and transcripts in a public forum.  All you have to do is sit down and READ for a few weeks.
 
PS  The sky actually is BLUE.

Dorothy, try to pay attention and follow along ......,,..it's easy .......NO NIC and a fishbowl.


Yes the sky is even a nicer shade of blue when not looking up through the water.
 
Poor Cactusboy is getting all upset again. He had it made and they gave it all away. "We want it all and we want it now," was the message from the river I guess I'd too be upset if I knew I had given it all away. Being in Phoenix can't be that bad. Lots of sun! He cries fowl at doh, but knows it is not being proposed. I hope he doesn't explode between now and June!
 
nevergiveup said:
Poor Cactusboy is getting all upset again. He had it made and they gave it all away. "We want it all and we want it now," was the message from the river I guess I'd too be upset if I knew I had given it all away. Being in Phoenix can't be that bad. Lots of sun! He cries fowl at doh, but knows it is not being proposed. I hope he doesn't explode between now and June!
 
Not upset.  Just impatient with someone who REFUSES to become and remain EDUCATED, and INSISTS that someone else do his HOMEWORK.  You sir are either a fool or someone that is suffering from severe denialism.
 
Kids, today's word is "DENIALISM":
 
"In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of an historical experience or event, by the person refusing to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2] In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favor of radical and controversial ideas"
 
nevergiveup said:
Poor Cactusboy is getting all upset again. He had it made and they gave it all away. "We want it all and we want it now," was the message from the river I guess I'd too be upset if I knew I had given it all away. Being in Phoenix can't be that bad. Lots of sun! He cries fowl at doh, but knows it is not being proposed. I hope he doesn't explode between now and June!
The boy needs some serious help! He has not accepted the fact the NIC is just not going to happen.......keep swimming flounder.



The desperation is getting so worse in the fishbowl,
 
luvthe9 said:
The boy needs some serious help! He has not accepted the fact the NIC is just not going to happen.......keep swimming flounder.
The desperation is getting so worse in the fishbowl,
Riiight. That's why 2 of the SLI committees argued that the Nicolau list must be the starting point for LUS. No worries Liar...Oops, Luvr
 
cactusboy53 said:
Riiight. That's why 2 of the SLI committees argued that the Nicolau list must be the starting point for LUS. No worries Liar...Oops, Luvr

Is that all you got?.............get back in the fishbowl, Wye do you continue to embarrass yourself.......its nonstop.




It's going to be epic......
 
luvthe9 said:
Is that all you got?.............get back in the fishbowl, Wye do you continue to embarrass yourself.......its nonstop.
It's going to be epic......
Nope. A new list delivered by the BOA & a war chest if approved by Conrad. That should be PLENTY, Liar.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Riiight. That's why 2 of the SLI committees argued that the Nicolau list must be the starting point for LUS. No worries Liar...Oops, Luvr
You couldn't read between the lines if I highlighted it for you!
 
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