2015 Pilot Discussion.

[cactusboy53]

“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”
 
US Airwaves June/July 2000
US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)

 

[cactusboy53]

“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met.  The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”
 
Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer

Exhibit 1 of  Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013

 

[luvthe9]

Someone has a case of blabber mouth tonight ...........translation........NO NIC and still stuck in the fishbowl.

 

[Phoenix]

Looks like the scab hypocrits in PHL are threatening a DFR suit. Hysterical.

 
Yeah, what about the lawsuit that was already filed? 
 
I read the complaint. The Letter G complaint is an alleged contract violation.  Not so much a DFR.  
 
The other complaints are less straightforward and remind me of the TWA situation.   They probably have a case but it will take more than a decade to win and the cost will be very steep.   The final "win" will be pyrrhic at best, just like for TWA and AOL.
 
But if folks believe it is a fight worth fighting, they should throw themselves all in, and sell gaudy ties to prove it.    

 

[Res Judicata]

 
Yeah, what about the lawsuit that was already filed? 
 
I read the complaint. The Letter G complaint is an alleged contract violation.  Not so much a DFR.  
 
The other complaints are less straightforward and remind me of the TWA situation.   They probably have a case but it will take more than a decade to win and the cost will be very steep.   The final "win" will be pyrrhic at best, just like for TWA and AOL.
 
But if folks believe it is a fight worth fighting, they should throw themselves all in, and sell gaudy ties to prove it.    

Leonidas win was Pyrrhic? Gee, I seem to recall the Nic being presented by 2 out of 3 parties in the SLI. I also heard about 5.5 million dollars leaving scab hands into those of AOL. USTUPID was too focused on the Nic to negotiate RR  so you'll be paying for that as well. But to be fair, USCABA never negotiated a single thing. Ever. You must be shocked at how much real unions can accomplish...
 
As far as yet ANOTHER loser MDA suit?  HAAAAA!! right. You know the one requirement to fly for MDA was?
 
BE. ON. FURLOUGH.
 
not hard to understand...unless you're a POS scab with zero integrity. This is the tip of the iceberg. Wait til SLI. You'll be begging for the Nic back.

 

[nic4us]

Looks like the scab hypocrits in PHL are threatening a DFR suit. Hysterical.

 
Just sabre rattling from the idiots in PHL who do not realize they are not holding sabres, just their crank in one hand and no reinstatement rights in the other.

 

[Ames]

 
Build yourself a wall around Phoenix!

You eastholes already did that.  Leonidas is tearing it down.  Too bad for you that we're getting $5.5 million back from you.  Fundraising for your "DFR" lawsuit is going to be tough.  I am betting you fail and fail badly.

 

[Ames]

Someone has a case of blabber mouth tonight ...........translation........NO NIC and still stuck in the fishbowl.

Translation:  No DOH and seeing that train in the tunnel coming your way.

 

[Phoenix]

Leonidas win was Pyrrhic? Gee, I seem to recall the Nic being presented by 2 out of 3 parties in the SLI. I also heard about 5.5 million dollars leaving scab hands into those of AOL. USTUPID was too focused on the Nic to negotiate RR  so you'll be paying for that as well. But to be fair, USCABA never negotiated a single thing. Ever. You must be shocked at how much real unions can accomplish...
 
As far as yet ANOTHER loser MDA suit?  HAAAAA!! right. You know the one requirement to fly for MDA was?
 
BE. ON. FURLOUGH.
 
not hard to understand...unless you're a POS scab with zero integrity. This is the tip of the iceberg. Wait til SLI. You'll be begging for the Nic back.

Of all the fish in the bowl, you take the bait fastest, and with the most cavitation and splashing.

 

[nic4us]

Of all the fish in the bowl, you take the bait fastest, and with the most cavitation and splashing.

 
Of all the snakes in the grass, you slither with the best forked tongued scabs on the east.
 
BTW, been meaning to ask you.  Does it bother you at all that the scab union's guilt sheds light on the scum who founded it?
 
You can always slither back under your rock, if it does.

 

[Phoenix]

 
Of all the snakes in the grass, you slither with the best forked tongued scabs on the east.
 
BTW, been meaning to ask you.  Does it bother you at all that the scab union's guilt sheds light on the scum who founded it?
 
You can always slither back under your rock, if it does.

 
 
Try as you might (and you do often give it a college try), you will never exceed the cavitation and splashing of Res.  You may come in second, but never first.. you never applied to the FBI (so at least you were somewhat more realistic in your aspirations.  You have to be completely off kilter to equal Res.).  

 

[Claxon]

http://youtu.be/You6YEaPfDI


Fishbowl fun.
NoNic49yrs takes the bait.....

 

[Claxon]

http://youtu.be/CmPo16_KiA8

 

[Res Judicata]

REINSTATEMENT RIGHTS: Only real Union pilots have them. There's going to be a feeding frenzy of LAA and West pilots devouring the scabs I'll-gotten gains...and their attrition to boot.

 

[nevergiveup]

Translation:  No DOH and seeing that train in the tunnel coming your way.

Can you please reference where USAPA or the APA east committee has presented a DOH proposed.