2015 Pilot Discussion.

[EastCheats]

Hey CAVOK, you seem to have certain biases. Could it be the Kool Aide?

Posted by CAVOK on 04 October 2012 - 01:43 PM in American Airlines
I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.

Posted by CAVOK on 28 July 2014 - 12:10 AM in American Airlines
Management really needs to do something about those ties. They came down hard about the badge backers and the lanyards, or at least USAPA should sell their own "Patriotic tie" for $6.75.

We sell those ties to defend ourselves from a hostile decertified union now posing as a dual bargaining agent. I'm sorry those ties offend you but I'll wear mine until hostilities by USAPA LLC ends its assault on West pilots.

 

[EastUS1]

We sell those ties to defend ourselves from a hostile decertified union now posing as a dual bargaining agent. I'm sorry those ties offend you but I'll wear mine until.....

 
Have fun with all that kid. Umm...Need some purple tutus and cheerleader pom poms to go with 'em? I could give you a discount for group purchases, and "you'se" could then mark them up as per the ties to whatever your fools might actually buy them for.
 
Have "you'se" yet considered the possible gains from even a "Spartan Scout" cookie sale? Heck!...If the sad likes of yourself and your fellow "soldiers" in your Fantasyland "army" ever rise to the quality level of the Girl Scouts: Put me in for at least a full case of the Thin Mints.

 

[CAVOK]

 
Personally sir?...Barring any potentially overheated condition; I generally leave the brakes set, but that's just me. Too many times in earlier life did it happen that signals were given for chocks in...and yet/etc.

Okay, so you know for a certainty that the 330 brakes in question were not in and "overheated condition" after the heavy landed may have landed on 36R in CLT and the chocks were in after the signal was properly given?
 
You have to wait until the investigation is completed before rendering judgement. I don't know how you find any satisfaction in these incidents. I just don't.
 
I rarely release the brakes, either. I just see no upside for me if there is an incident after I have released the brakes. I also stop if I am not sure there is clearance on jetways and I check for the jetway being in the hashmarks on the pavement. But, it if very hard to tell on a 330-300 where the jetway is after it passes the cockpit window.  

 

[EastUS1]

Okay, so you know for a certainty that the 330 brakes in question were not in and "overheated condition" ....

 
Absolutely NOT, nor did I mean anything at ALL in reference to the posted situation. My sincere apologies for not saying so earlier, in properly then prefacing my would-be "sage elder stuff"...I'll forever be the very last man on earth to "Monday morining quarterback" any other pilot, and I certainly never meant my wholly generalized notions on brakes to ever be applied to that particular case at all. I wasn't there, and many reasons exist, as we all know, for giving brakes some "breathing room" at times.

 

[nevergiveup]

Okay, so you know for a certainty that the 330 brakes in question were not in and "overheated condition" after the heavy landed may have landed on 36R in CLT and the chocks were in after the signal was properly given?
 
You have to wait until the investigation is completed before rendering judgement. I don't know how you find any satisfaction in these incidents. I just don't.
 
I rarely release the brakes, either. I just see no upside for me if there is an incident after I have released the brakes. I also stop if I am not sure there is clearance on jetways and I check for the jetway being in the hashmarks on the pavement. But, it if very hard to tell on a 330-300 where the jetway is after it passes the cockpit window.  

It could never happen to a west pilot. They are the best of the best, of the best, of the best......ect.....ect....ect...., and rightly look forward to taking their place senior to most of the APA group.

 

[CAVOK]

Hey CAVOK, you seem to have certain biases. Could it be the Kool Aide?

Posted by CAVOK on 04 October 2012 - 01:43 PM in American Airlines
I haven't been here for a few years and I can see that nothing has changed. I haven't missed this at all and I don't know how you pass your medicals' BP test. Biding my time on the 767 or 330 until I retire, but, damn it has been a good week to have the moniker CAVOK! Thank you USAPA and thank you Judge Silver.

Posted by CAVOK on 28 July 2014 - 12:10 AM in American Airlines
Management really needs to do something about those ties. They came down hard about the badge backers and the lanyards, or at least USAPA should sell their own "Patriotic tie" for $6.75.

We sell those ties to defend ourselves from a hostile decertified union now posing as a dual bargaining agent. I'm sorry those ties offend you but I'll wear mine until hostilities by USAPA LLC ends its assault on West pilots.

Actually, I am not offended by the ties. Wear on! Wear on!
 
The ties are more of a source of amusement to the pilots with whom I fly, hence the joke about the USAPA $6.75 tie. I just thought, "I can't believe that these guys are starting it up again." I have to chuckle every time I see one and I usually have to explain what it is all about to others who had never hear of the scheme before. I only found out by hearing from a first officer.  
 
The vast majority didn't even know that they exist. The response is usually laughter. I don't see them often, but I recently saw one at the front desk of the Clarion by a captain who was inquiring why there wasn't any free fruit or doughnuts in the crew room. Oh, the irony. I guess you need a free breakfast after paying $700 for a tie. 

 

[CAVOK]

Okay, so you know for a certainty that the 330 brakes in question were not in and "overheated condition" after the heavy landed may have landed on 36R in CLT and the chocks were in after the signal was properly given?
 
You have to wait until the investigation is completed before rendering judgement. I don't know how you find any satisfaction in these incidents. I just don't.
 
I rarely release the brakes, either. I just see no upside for me if there is an incident after I have released the brakes. I also stop if I am not sure there is clearance on jetways and I check for the jetway being in the hashmarks on the pavement. But, it if very hard to tell on a 330-300 where the jetway is after it passes the cockpit window.  

Sorry, misunderstanding after so much vitriol on this site. 

 

[EastUS1]

Sorry, misunderstanding after so much vitriol on this site. 

 
No worries brother, and your point about "very hard to tell on a 330-300 where the jetway is after it passes the cockpit window. " is well taken. Any ever crewing a "big rig" of any kind necessarily must rely on ground crew...no matter the discomfort that sometimes offers.

 

[EastUS1]

It could never happen to a west pilot. They are the best of the best, of the best, of the best......ect.....ect....ect...., ...

 
And yet somehow can't seem to rise to even accepting any purely recreational/not-even-life-threatening flying wagers....Most curious indeed....A truly tough bunch, those mighty "spartans"...

 

[CAVOK]

 
Indeed. "Thou shalt not know the hour, nor the day". The first friend I lost to the sky (hardly the last, unfortunately) happened when we were all just "kids" in our early 20's, due to his generously allowing students in the T-38 as much "rope" as was (admittedly mutually agreeably) usually reasonable, only to be killed in a final turn accident, after he took control, but the damn engines failed to respond in "Tech Order" timing to afterburner selection, one failing to do so at all, and the other precious seconds after the "advertised" time even started to stretch it's nozzle. What most completely disgusts me with these infantile "spartans" is the clear combination of their childish arrogance and their utter cluelessness on what should reasonably be standard-issue-wisdom.
 
Any childish punk that ever imagines him/her self somehow "bulletproof" from the Fates can't ever be even imagined to be anything even remotely apporaching an intelligent or at all competent "Pilot"....

Indeed. I lost a dozen pilot friends, fellow employees or good acquaintances before I ever turned a wheel with the airline who would have loved to be in my seat right now. Four of the friends were from USAF flight school and it was peace time. Three of those gentlemen received flying awards upon completion from UPT. The fourth was an instructor. Seven others were probably civilian and one helicopter pilot was both. No one is immune.  

 

[nycbusdriver]

Actually, free speech is protected by the constitution. 

 
Actually, you're clueless about the Constitution of the United States.  It protects speech against the government, not disclosure of private or corporate information.  
 
Do you think an employee disclosing company secrets (like the Coca-Cola formula) would be protected by the US Constitution?  What a clod!

 

[EastUS1]

Indeed. I lost a dozen pilot friends, fellow employees or good acquaintances before I ever turned a wheel with the airline who would have loved to be in my seat right now. Four of the friends were from USAF flight school and it was peace time. Three of those gentlemen received flying awards upon completion from UPT. The fourth was an instructor. Seven others were probably civilian and one helicopter pilot was both. No one is immune.  

 
Amen Brother. "To fly west is a final checkride we all must one day take"......and no amount of personal pride, childish fantasies, or even fully unmitigated, mindless arrogance ever cloaks anyone in a protective shield. For what little it's worth, and only serves to sooth me sometimes; I know that those friends lost fully knew the magic of the sky, very much needed to personally be there, and really, how tiny a percentage in all of humankind's history have ever seen and experienced what they did? Such "happy" thoughts hardly keep me from missing them though. However many billions our species ever becomes; there will always be precious few that ever cross one's path in life and become true friends.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
Amen Brother. "To fly west is a final checkride we all must take"......and no amount of personal pride, childish fantasies, or even fully unmitigated, mindless arrogance ever cloaks anyone in a protective shield.

 
"To fly west is a final checkride we all must take"
 
And would that we all overfly KPHX and avoid that particular hell, especially to avoid the denizens in residence there.

 

[EastUS1]

 
"To fly west is a final checkride we all must take"
 
And would that we all overfly KPHX and avoid that particular hell, especially to avoid the denizens in residence there.

 
Works for me.

 

[FL430]

Well it will be official after Wednesday. No "Spartan pilot" will have piloted any of our 767's.
Makes me smile, buy more ties fellas.

What happened to all the regulars; nic4, snap, prechill, and cactus1?