2015 Pilot Discussion.

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CEO Doug Parker: The answer to that question is Yes. And let me talk about some of the comments you made. First off, as to the stagnation of growth for America West pilots since the merger what I will tell you is, and this is a hard thing to communicate to people but I believe it with all my heart, that if we didn’t do the merger with US Airways you’d be in a lot worse position. And frankly I think as a 3-year FO, you wouldn’t have a job. We would have gone through a bankruptcy filing. We would have downsized. We had an airline at America West that had 20% lower unit revenues than US Airways and now has the same unit cost. That airline could not survive. We would try to make it better. We’d go file bankruptcy. We’d get ourselves a little stronger now the economy is back we’d be trying to come out like Delta is. But I swear to you that airline was going to file bankruptcy. When it filed bankruptcy we would have downsized at least 15% and you know while you feel bad about stagnation, you should feel better about that versus where you were headed. And that’s we were headed. So I feel very good about what we were able to do with the America West team through the merger because believe me the standalone plan was not gonna work. So again I mean that’s hard for you to appreciate because you never saw it but, you know, it was coming. So that’s point 1.
 
Metroyet said:
The Nic was never yours to "offer". Pauley isn't the "new Nicolau " either. Sorry Courtney, not only is the west going to confiscate decades of earnings from you, they are going to put you in your rightful, furloughed, twice bankrupt place. Behind Dave Odell.

All TWA pilots go ahead of any west pilots!......... Remember we saved Dave.
 
FL430 said:
I can guarantee you don't have the stones to wear that liberty tie in the clt training center. I double dog dare you. No-one has seen one there yet.
I bet that PHX training center will be shut down within 24 months. Bank on it, March 2017, come on prechill lets get a countdown clock going!
Oh by the way, when new hires do Indoc in PHX, they tell us you guys have a lot of anger and hostility, why is that genius?
Morning loser, I bought a tie so I can wear it in your training center after Phoenix training center closes. I sent a thank you to Leonidas for going on the offensive and sending these guys a message that we aren't going to tolerate their mendacity.

GARY HUMMEL, STEPHEN BRADFORD,
ROB STREBLE, STEVE SMYSER,
ROBERT FREAR, COURTNEY BORMAN,
and Jane Doe Borman, RONALD NELSON,
PAUL DIORIO, PAUL MUSIC, JOHN
TAYLOR, JOE STEIN, PETE DUGSTAD,
JAY MILKEY and STEPHEN NATHAN,
Defendants, sued in their
individual capacity.

Description Unit price Qty Amount
Liberty Necktie Contribution
Item #: LibertyTieTall
Size: Tall $675.00 USD 1 $675.00 USD

Total: $675.00 USD
Receipt No: 2811-6233
 
EastCheats said:
I see the propaganda machine and Claxon's minions are working overtime.
Luv, if you are going to be a good minion...
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"Your lucky to be here"..hmmm
You're missing an apostrophe.
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The Legacy American pilots PM for more. They had no idea about the Nic. They do now........
Forewarned is a good name for it. Their merger committee is getting it all, and the Nicolau never happening is an eye opener. Despite your Spinthis, they get it.
 
Claxon said:
The Legacy American pilots PM for more. They had no idea about the Nic. They do now........
Forewarned is a good name for it. Their merger committee is getting it all, and the Nicolau never happening is an eye opener. Despite your Spinthis, they get it.
Why would they care one way or another about the Nic? The Nic did happen and so did Bradford's deposition.

Spinthat

:lol:
 
luvthe9 said:
This violates the fiduciary standard. We have to ask: Who is controlling the class? Who is pulling the strings? And do they fairly represent the class?

One of the four Leonidas LLC directors is apparently now employed as an American Airlines pilot;\

Having Kevin Horner associated in any way with this DFR only hurts the effort. How can he adequately meet the fiduciary requirements to fairly represent the class? Our sources have told us that Kevin Horner’s current union, the APA, is furious with him for his participation in a DFR suit against another union.




The question is which list is Kevin Horner trying to get on.
Nice work Perry Mason. All of that and yet USAPA is still dead, irrelevent and laughed at. If I were you, I'd brush up on personal Bankruptcy law. Those Liberty Ties are going to be financial nooses around the Necks of the Scab13. Count on it.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
Morning loser, I bought a tie so I can wear it in your training center after Phoenix training center closes. I sent a thank you to Leonidas for going on the offensive and sending these guys a message that we aren't going to tolerate their mendacity.

GARY HUMMEL, STEPHEN BRADFORD,
ROB STREBLE, STEVE SMYSER,
ROBERT FREAR, COURTNEY BORMAN,
and Jane Doe Borman, RONALD NELSON,
PAUL DIORIO, PAUL MUSIC, JOHN
TAYLOR, JOE STEIN, PETE DUGSTAD,
JAY MILKEY and STEPHEN NATHAN,
Defendants, sued in their
individual capacity.

Description Unit price Qty Amount
Liberty Necktie Contribution
Item #: LibertyTieTall
Size: Tall $675.00 USD 1 $675.00 USD

Total: $675.00 USD
Receipt No: 2811-6233
DISMISSED!!!!!
 
Metroyet said:
Nice work Perry Mason. All of that and yet USAPA is still dead, irrelevent and laughed at. If I were you, I'd brush up on personal Bankruptcy law. Those Liberty Ties are going to be financial nooses around the Necks of the Scab13. Count on it.
 
[SIZE=14pt]Having Kevin Horner associated in any way with this DFR only hurts the effort. How can he adequately meet the fiduciary requirements to fairly represent the class? Our sources have told us that Kevin Horner’s current union, the APA, is furious with him for his participation in a DFR suit against another union.      [/SIZE]
 
 
 
 
[SIZE=14pt]THE APA HAS YOUR NUMBER BOY!!!!!!![/SIZE]
 
After reading the posts of the APA pilots on the web, I give DOH a far better chance than that of using the NIC for anything. Perhaps it would work in the LAS crew base.
 
nevergiveup said:
After reading the posts of the APA pilots on the web, I give DOH a far better chance than that of using the NIC for anything. Perhaps it would work in the LAS crew base.
I read the same boards. What are you reading? :lol:
 
nevergiveup said:
After reading the posts of the APA pilots on the web, I give DOH a far better chance than that of using the NIC for anything. Perhaps it would work in the LAS crew base.
Your so right,  the APA has a few things in store for our little westicle friends which they aren't aware of yet.   Geez, I cant wait for opening day.
 
EastCheats said:
I read the same boards. What are you reading? :lol:
Go ahead tell the APA about how your getting the NIC they need a good laugh. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 
 
Show them your tie!!!!!!
 
luvthe9 said:
Go ahead tell the APA about how your getting the NIC they need a good laugh. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I thought the arbitrators were doing the arbitration.

Once again..

You're getting the Nic. Not your getting the Nic.

I'm laughing at your, (notice the lack of an apostrophe) stupidity.

:lol:
 
“In the US Airways – America West case, it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasn’t done yet.

And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."

Scott Kirby

Continue to say the Nicolau Award is and/ or will be in place. We will all take the word of the PRESIDENT of AMERICAN AIRLINES. Legacy AA pilots, whom do you believe? The angry 2004 hires of america west, or Scott Kirby?
 
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