2015 AMT Discussion
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conehead777
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im not arrogant I'm upset at what the twu has lost us in negotiations and there lack of response to get us out of a bk contract they could have been negotiating with the company and the iam at the same time they don't care there making there 250000 a year. I voted no on 2003 and 2012 and 2010 the pay raises did not overcome the loss of retire medical if you were below 50 so I voted no . I'm sick of the twu taking from the amts for other work groups. I worked hard for my license and we need to be compensated at least what the other airlines are paying just rember we work on the airplanes the pilots fly so we keep the pilots safe but they get the fat checks it's times things change. its time to quit drinking the twu kool aid big jetsbigjets said:
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They vote on their own contract, no fleet service votes on the M&R CBA700UW said:
And if the mechanics had their own union, the total compensation the company has set aside for the ground workers would not have to consider the compensation of the other work groups.
Sean Doyle
Why have a Fleet Service Clerk in with the mechanics in the first place?
You are truly ignorant, you are saying that not one mechanic from those currently represented by the IAM at USAir and the TWU at AA would not have stepped up if actually, truthfully been given the opportunity?
If there is a disagreement during negotiations the chair decides?
When I first started reading your posts 700, I thought you had some common sense.
It appears that this fictional character "conehead777" has been added into the mix to create some infighting. No effort to hide it either. If the TWU put half as much effort into actually negotiating a decent contact, as they did with these pitiful distractions - we would have the best contracts in the industry.Rogallo said:
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While I can admire your passion for wanting to get a contract, I disagree that the fault lies with other workgroups, nor do I believe that other workgroups taken anything from us in my years. And yes they have almost all sucked at the company.conehead777 said:
As Buck alluded to earlier, the blame lies with all of us because we haven't been willing to fight for what we feel we deserve--especially the lazy a-holes who didn't vote in 2012.
When we stop trying to find someone to blame for our collective failures, fleet and pilots getting fat checks in your case, and start taking responsibility for our careers, we will then be successful.
We will be even more successful when there are no more unintelligible sentences, such as the ones in your post, on a public forum talking about how highly skilled you are. :blink:
conehead777
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im not a fictional character I'm a amt with over 30 years tired of the bs so I'm not politically correct and I'm tired of not speaking up how I feel and no I want hide my feelings how the twu caused all this they need to get the amts what they deserve but they want they will get there most due paying members the best contract the company gives so much to twu/ iam so they will do what they always do give us the last tiny very tiny sliver of pieVortilon said:
conehead777
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i might not use proper punctuation are spelling. But I feel the way I do. The blame lies with the twu with there dues in number program . I don't care what you think of me are what I beleave . I might not spell but I can do avionics work . I know I'm not the only one who feels this wayASSociation Clown said:
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Spelling is not a factor, if I were to go there, as a Crew Chief who daily reads Non-Routines written by mechanic and inspector alike, conehead777 is not alone. Why someone would even decide to bring that to this conversation, I am not sure.conehead777 said:
If you recall I would prefer to be non union because of these very reasons, but we are part of a union and a majority voted for those concessions, yes the low informed twu loyalists. On the other extreme of why I would prefer no union, is the 2010 VOTE NO know nothing's, to expect the twu to negotiate a contract where we are industry leading pay etc, and have OH and have a pension and retiree medical. What gets me is that I saw the writing on the wall and voted yes which would have put over $50k in cash alone in our pockets etc etc, but the kicker the bull headed vote no crowd still won't admit what a mistake it was. The techs voted it in and they're doing pretty good now.conehead777 said:
The FSCs work as hard as anybody, and there is no reason to attack them, the union has no say with anything AA will run its business the way they see fit to. We are forced to be in this union and pay dues. Tulsa and the guys that don't vote are the ones that have hurt us.
I would rather be non union then be part of the twu with different agendas, the line wanting to paid fair market value for our labor, Tulsa wanting to preserve the 20th century airline industry, which comes at the expense of everybody else.Buck said:
I don't advocate for this associatiom, I'm forced to pay the juice to the union in order to work at AA. The association will be just signing off on what AA has already decided they're going to pay us. Let's face it, if AA didn't want to open contract until 2018 they could and if they wanted to delay a contract until 2023 they could.
Advocate, no,just trying to remain optimistic. Let's see if the association can beat a 30% raise like the agents union got without creating another b scale/OSM.
http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/officials-hash-out-futures-american-airlines-worke/npZbq/
this reporter sure did down play the concessions we took. I wonder if CLT and PIT local news mentioned that LAA planes will be bought to their respective stations for work. I hope we can keep our current work and bring back the wide bodies.
this reporter sure did down play the concessions we took. I wonder if CLT and PIT local news mentioned that LAA planes will be bought to their respective stations for work. I hope we can keep our current work and bring back the wide bodies.
