2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[T5towbar]

 
Is the company contractually obligated to bring the work in house in new stations? Or only contractually obligated to entertain a cost advantage bid, by the TWU, verse a third party vendor? If the latter is the case... good luck with that. Agreeing to compete with vendor's bids is no way to gain new or lost represented work. Shame on any labor organization that agrees to such terms. Additional shame to the members who ratify any such TA! 
 

And we are paying DEARLY for it.  
Bottom line is don't make that mistake. You can't beat a vendor's price.... PERIOD!!
 

In years past, AE was wholly owned by AMR and it was one just one carrier for the purpose of TWU staffing. Now there are multiple carriers providing feed, and some cities have AE/Envoy flights operated by 2 or 3 different airlines...etc. So, Im not sure how the AE/TWU CBA addresses that issue. I know at LAX a lot of AE/Envoy flying was transferred to SkyWest and Mesa and soon Republic and the AE TWU kept all the work so far. Your right, nobody can compete with vendors most of the time. However, United has been giving a lot of outsource work to regular AE/Envoy employees vs. Eagle Ground Handling or other no benefit vendors.

Yeah. AE (along with DGS) is doing a lot of our work in smaller stations. Probably will get a couple of more once the last 27 stations will be announced at the beginning of next year. (Probably Feb.) I know AE got about 4-5 in the last two rounds, like BUF and CMH. But a few low ball outfits have been getting more of the work. It's sad, I'll tell you. I know that DGS is doing work in some of the LOA #6 cities, and must go. But I don't know if AE is involved in any of those cities either. Whatever the case, they must go. And fast. Our people will need homes soon when the ax falls.

 

[ograc]

One thing is apparent; when the represented (IAM / TWU) Fleet is given the opportunity to insource former outsourced (third party) work it is imperative we make it happen. We'll take the work and subsequent jobs that go with it! Insourcing work... what a refreshing concept! The previously announced stations, where this will take place, must make it happen! Protect existing work. Go after outsourced work. IMO... This is the direction we should be going. A strategy that promotes growth in union represented jobs. An opportunity to reverse the trend of outsourcing union represented work and subsequent jobs.  

 

[robbedagain]

orgac   a friend of mine who is now in PBI said that they started working AA metal recently    We at my station start DEC 8   have you started workin their metal     Also itd be interesting to see how many stations where IAM takes over AA metal and vice versa

 

[cltrat]

CLT has been working the former AE flights for a few months now

 

[robbedagain]

Thats great rat did aa have any mainline jets or no?

 

[700UW]

Yes AA has mainline flights at CLT.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks 700 

 

[700UW]

November 7, 2014
 
IAM representatives of the Joint Seniority Integration Committee met last week in Dallas, TX to discuss and examine issues related to seniority list integration. The IAM also named their respective joint contract negotiating committees comprised of members from Districts 141 and 142 (see below). The TWU–IAM Associations were formed in May, 2013 after the merger of American Airlines and US Airways and is the largest union at the new American Airlines. The IAM and TWU both determined that joining forces would bring the best unity and strength to secure the joint contracts that Association represented members rightfully deserve. While there are three separate and distinct Associations for negotiations and representation purposes (Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores), our combined strength will bring us the best contracts at the bargaining tables. “We are excited about moving the Associations forward, so 30,000 ground workers at the new American can attain the industry’s best contracts at the World’s largest carrier,” said IAM District 141 and 142 Presidents Rich Delaney and Dave Supplee in a joint statement. “The new American just reported record third quarter profits. Now is the time to be prepared and get to the table.” Mechanic & Related/Stores Sean Ryan John Coveny Bennie Martino Mark Strength Ken Coley Mark Huffman Fleet Mike Fairbanks Pat Rezler Bill Wilson Steve Miller Mark Baskett Rodney Walker The TWU will separately name members from TWU to the joint negotiating committee. We look forward to joining forces. -
 
See more at: http://www.usaamerge...h.dcwk9iSL.dpuf

 

[ograc]

orgac   a friend of mine who is now in PBI said that they started working AA metal recently    We at my station start DEC 8   have you started workin their metal     Also itd be interesting to see how many stations where IAM takes over AA metal and vice versa

 
robbed, we started working AA metal on the 10th of this month. Huge undertaking as AA mainline and regionals nearly doubled our daily departures. The biggest challenge was to get everyone "qualified" and trained, in a somewhat timely manner, prior to being allowed to work the AA metal. For the ramp; training involved taking close to 20 electronic training courses (upwards of 25 for "Crew Chiefs"/Leads) along with hands on training with their ground equipment. Becoming familiar with AA policies and procedures is also involved. Some policies and procedures are very different than former US. Hopefully, going forward, we can combine and revise the better ones and drop the ones that tend to be counter productive. "That's the way we've always done it" should no longer justify policies or procedures that need to be revised. We're getting through it. We want it to work. 
 

 

[robbedagain]

thanks orgac   we've been given those electronic tests etc   and a large nmbr of our peeps are now apu/brake ride qualified on AA MD80 738s as well as our 75s and Eagle/Envoy EMB 135/145 and 175s      I hope youre right that they'll revise the better ones and drop the counter productive ones      Once we begin working AA metal here  we'll have AAs 4/5 ml to DFW and MIA plus ORD and 2 to JFK on top of our CLT PHX and PHL trips

 

[737823]

Robbed I don't think ORD-BWI has been mainline in many years.

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

while AE/Envoy has been flying mix of EMB 135/145 and 175s  my point is is that as a member of the IAM  our union was able to secure a great contract in which we will handle BTW work for AA at a number of cities and vice versa  not to mention enhanced scope which also includes the fact Catering cannot be outsourced at the hubs nor BWI   its spelled out in the contract.    

 

[Kev3188]

thanks orgac   we've been given those electronic tests etc   and a large nmbr of our peeps are now apu/brake ride qualified on AA MD80 738s as well as our 75s and Eagle/Envoy EMB 135/145 and 175s...

The more training, the better...

 

[700UW]

IAM District Lodge 141 and 142 Negotiations Committee members, District Lodge 141 and 142 leadership and Transportation Department officials met yesterday in Charlotte, NC to continue preparations for joint contract negotiations for Mechanic and Related, Fleet Service and Stores workers at American Airlines.
TWU-IAM Association bargaining strategies and priorities were discussed and previous seniority committee meetings were reviewed.
 
“Yesterday’s meetings were very productive and the business of the Association is moving along,” said IAM District 141 and 142 Presidents Rich Delaney and Dave Supplee. “We eagerly await a single carrier determination so the representation process is triggered.”
 
The National Mediation Board (NMB) has yet to rule on the TWU-IAM Association’s request for a single carrier determination. Although there is no specific timetable for the NMB to issue a determination, a ruling is expected soon.
 
“Getting to the table and achieving the industry’s best contracts for Mechanic and Related, Fleet Service and Stores workers at American Airlines is our single priority,” continued Delaney and Supplee. “We look forward to the TWU-appointed negotiators joining the process.”
 
The TWU-IAM Association represents more than 30,000 Mechanic and Related, Fleet Service and Stores workers at American Airlines and is the largest union at the carrier.
 
- See more at: http://www.usaamerger.com/2014/11/19/iam-continues-american-airlines-joint-contract-preparations/#sthash.9L9pSL8Q.dpuf
 
 

 

[737823]

Your link is wrong, the alliance currently represents no one. They don't represent 38,000 employees.

Josh