2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[Tim Nelson]

Tim only in 12 stations can that cross utilization be done but then on scope they cant outsource unless it goes down to 1 jet a day/7 a week add in AA metal etc

Robbed,  Only 12? 
 it's a 1/3 of our stations, and they arent' necessarily the small ones.  And who is to say that it won't be more?  There is no limit on it.  It's just 12 now.  Is there anything stopping the company from recalling or having open positions for TWU members at other stations?  What then?  It may be more than the dirty dozen my friend if joint talks labor along slowly. 
 
And yes, that is scope loss.  Anytime someone else can do your work, that's a loss of scope.   The other scope gain only affected 3-6 small stations, and also coughed up two large stations, including IAH and another at minimum.  Even the contract calls it an exchange.  It was not scope positive, at best it was scope neutral. This was our chance in section 6, yet we played the shell game and, in the end, punted most of the things that needed fixed to "Next Time".   I assume you are not part time as well because they will still get to participate in a bankrupt contract even though we are 10 years away from the last bankruptcy. Disappointing indeed.

 

[robbedagain]

same here rat  my off day just got back from casting my vote! 

 

[cltrat]

I always ask people who #### and moan about something they have some control over if they voted or attended a meeting to hear the information? If they tell me no then I tell them they have no right to B and A. And no I don't care if they pay dues or not. A union survives and thrives on participation. You can pay dues to a gym as well but if you don't work out don't complain to the personal trainers cause you don't look like Schwarzenegger.

absolutely first thing I ask a complainer, did you vote? the answer is almost always no
then I say then you have nothing to talk about and walk off.

 

[robbedagain]

Tim  I do not know what more you want in sect 6 talks  but in this case what we have here is at least 1000% better than what UA and HA had received in the past.  This alone tells me that our NC heard us loud and clear.   And to top it off the scope was enhanced in this TA not to mention the AA metal is now included.   This TA will pass (my own opin of course) and I think its not just the signing bonus or the wages but the scope has definitely been improved in this TA.   The Health thing does not take affect til sometime in 2018 and we got what 4 yrs to go for that..  not to mention by then we COULD have a JCBA by then that cld cover the Health Care   In short theres a lot that cld and will happen btwn now and 4 yrs later.  Personally I voted YES for our TA bec of the Scope    While I do think the signing bonus and the wages cld of been brough up higher  I am for one happy the SCOPE was improved much more significantly.  To me that was more important than anything else  and yes Wages are important but what good would that do if you don't have scope

 

[Harry Callahan]

Tim I'm going to try and give you advice you didn't ask for.
 
Away from here & all the union stuff which I'll never agree with you on & of course I couldn't vote for you. With that said I consider you to be my friend. I think you need to just retire & get away from all this stuff & let it go. IMO God could use you in ministry & of course He will supply your needs. Something to pray about.
 
Harry

 

[roabilly]

Let’s see Nelson...
 
Proclaiming you have never “Lost” an election because they were ALL tainted by corruption... (Implying that you technically won them all)...
 
Labeling the Union Leadership as “evil doers”...
 
Labeling anyone that supports the Leadership as “evil doers”...
 
Proclaiming yourself as the “Enforcer” fighting for justice over the “evil doers”...
 
Proclaiming that your own credibility is not of importance... (While questioning everyone else’s credibility)...
 
Son... you are a couple fries short of a Happy Meal!

 

[roabilly]

absolutely first thing I ask a complainer, did you vote? the answer is almost always no
then I say then you have nothing to talk about and walk off.

Rat,
 
I commend you for your involvement, and participation in these processes. You are doing EXACTLY what you need to do to better the group as a whole, and that is to participate in the process, instead of tearing the process down, while sitting on the sidelines. 
 
As far as the complainers... I used to ask them if they had ever bothered to read the contract, attend a local meeting, or attempted to get involved as a steward...
It's real easy to complain and moan... it's the easy way out, and you can blame all the others for what you perceive as wrong!

 

[737823]

HY NIELSON>
WHN R U GONA
BRING DOOSH
OUT AGAIN?

 
 
DAVE WHO IS DOOSH?
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

 
 
DAVE WHO IS DOOSH?
 
Josh

You dummy! LOL

 

[737823]

You dummy! LOL

 
Then why was the question directed at Tim? I knew you would respond quickly.
 
Josh

 

[BLUTO]

 
 
DAVE WHO IS DOOSH?
 
Josh

DOOSH>
WHO IZ
DAVE?

 

[robbedagain]

dave could be all of us on this board! 

 

[737823]

DOOSH>
WHO IZ
DAVE?

 
 

TIMMY IN DEEP
DOODOO LOOK
LIK AA/TWU HAS
THEY OWN ROABILY!
 
DAVE

 
Josh

 

[roabilly]

DOOSH>
WHO IZ
DAVE?
 
 
TIMMY IN DEEP
DOODOO LOOK
LIK AA/TWU HAS
THEY OWN ROABILY!
 
DAVE
 
Josh

Ahem... you just answered to Doosh... AGAIN! How many times are you going to fall for that trick?

 

[737823]

Ahem... you just answered to Doosh... AGAIN! How many times are you going to fall for that trick?

 
So you are to the IAM/US as WeAAsles is to TWU/AA.
 
Josh