It's a full package when it gets to this section of bargains. Many articles are closed out depending on economics and scope. You can argue- say you don't agree but that is how the negotiations works. The contract and cba is not article by article but on final close out the full package. That is why it is imperative on presentation the full cba is understood. Not just the compensation. You make your money in the language not your pay rate. Hard to explain but think about it.Look Jerk you are the one screaming about scope no one said anything about giving anything away the two LOA's have everything to do with scope. It seems like the only think you are concerned with is getting your full retro pay! The union will not get everything they want in scope, Since we can not have observers in there; get the scope language done without being conditional on what the company wants in economics When I am talking scope tell the company we want this scope locked and we don't want it based on what you want in economics! Then once that is secured then you can entertain the med/ arb process! I am tired of everyone that has a sugestion is some company spy! If AMFA really wants a contract and not just throw impossible pay rates out there, and you guys scream about scope then get the scope done! If that takes a little longer to get the scope done then so be it !