WN Mechanics seek mediation

[B737 driver]

And here is their first reply:



"Lee is a very bright guy and an excellent attorney. Our USAPA legal efforts definitely suffered when the leadership decided to change law firms. Our Vice Chairman started an affair with one of the lawyers at Lee's law firm. Lee saw this as an ethical problem, which it was, and in the ensuing weeks the attorney left his firm and our officers severed ties with Lee's firm.
We were on a legal winning streak at that time but the guy who replaced Seham lost the Addington II case. He was not even close to Seham as an attorney. The whole thing was a complete fiasco.

Good luck with your negotiations. I know from friends that it's not the old Southwest any more"

You and weasel boy can go on over and read it for yourself......

I read it, I also read what The chairman of USAPA had to say about Lee Seham

 

[B737 driver]

I read it, I also read what The chairman of USAPA had to say about Lee Seham

And here is their first reply:



"Lee is a very bright guy and an excellent attorney. Our USAPA legal efforts definitely suffered when the leadership decided to change law firms. Our Vice Chairman started an affair with one of the lawyers at Lee's law firm. Lee saw this as an ethical problem, which it was, and in the ensuing weeks the attorney left his firm and our officers severed ties with Lee's firm.
We were on a legal winning streak at that time but the guy who replaced Seham lost the Addington II case. He was not even close to Seham as an attorney. The whole thing was a complete fiasco.

Good luck with your negotiations. I know from friends that it's not the old Southwest any more"

You and weasel boy can go on over and read it for yourself......

 

[Hackman]

AMFA supporters have hired him. TWU leaders never have.

Next?

Next? I'll bet you a brand new 18 Mustang Dippy Dave your full of sh+t and your breath smells like a sewer pipe, I'll take a 5.0 GT Red on Black 6 speed.

Deal?

Maybe you should be at least a TWu shop steward down at the MIA TWu Local 568, then you might know at least a little about which you speak. I guess no one would take that chance.

 

[B737 driver]

Read it and cry crowsfoot this was what United, Delta, And USAPA had to say about your hero lawyer

 

[sendmeupacrowsfoot]

Read it and cry crowsfoot this was what United, Delta, And USAPA had to say about your hero lawyer

What? What was that? I can't understand what you're sayin cause there's something in your mouth. It looks like your foot.

 

[B737 driver]

What? What was that? I can't understand what you're sayin cause there's something in your mouth. It looks like a foot.

That's because you didn't bother reading the file put out by Delta MEC, yes he has won some cases he has also lost cases for us, that he knew he couldn't win, but gladly took our dues money.

 

[B737 driver]

What? What was that? I can't understand what you're sayin cause there's something in your mouth. It looks like a foot.

Ok smartass, you'er in Dallas, walk over to SWAPA and ask them, why they replaced Lee Seham as their law firm?

 

[Hackman]

I read it, I also read what The chairman of USAPA had to say about Lee Seham

Hey Nut Driver, why don't you Dippy D go over to the pilots forum and tell them how moronic and foolish they are for being non-AFl-CIo affiliated, they spend big money on attorneys, and how the APA union generally just sucks.

I'm sure the ramper and AMT advise will be well received.

 

[WeAAsles]

What? What was that? I can't understand what you're sayin cause there's something in your mouth. It looks like a foot.

You seem overjoyed by the response of (One) Pilot.

Are you always so easily stimulated?

Again I’ll ask 1000 times. Why are afraid to VOTE?

And I still say the Lawyers are your biggest problem. Not the (who cares) acronym you guys call yourselves.

 

[B737 driver]

Hey Nut Driver, why don't you Dippy D go over to the pilots forum and tell them how moronic and foolish they are for being non-AFl-CIo affiliated, they spend big money on attorneys, and how the APA union generally just sucks.

I'm sure the ramper and AMT advise will be well received.

Hey Retard I don't have a problem with APA or pilots, industrial unions or an independent union. What I have a problem with is any union telling you, it will be this long, or we can do this now, and every other excuse in the book, why you can't reach a T/A. If the shoe was on the other foot at American and every group was done except maintenance, and you were under the same contract with no improvements, you would be the first one screaming for your leadership head. And judging for all your negative post, if you say you wouldn't I know you are a Liar.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hey Retard I don't have a problem with APA or pilots, industrial unions or an independent union. What I have a problem with is any union telling you, it will be this long, or we can do this now, and every other excuse in the book, why you can't reach a T/A. If the shoe was on the other foot at American and every group was done except maintenance, and you were under the same contract with no improvements, you would be the first one screaming for your leadership head. And judging for all your negative post, if you say you wouldn't I know you are a Liar.

If it gets to the point for us where there’s Month after Month of no movement and no meetings or BS 2 day meetings done every few months for appearances, I’d be on these pages (and other places) saying enough is enough with the Association too. Give me what you have and let me make the next decision!!!!!!

BUT our people meet with AA often and we have also gotten pay raises outside of a JCBA. We have honest movement. Not Speedy Gonzalez movement, but movement.

 

[B737 driver]

If it gets to the point for us where there’s Month after Month of no movement and no meetings or BS 2 day meetings done every few months for appearances, I’d be on these pages (and other places) saying enough is enough with the Association too. Give me what you have and let me make the next decision!!!!!!

BUT our people meet with AA often and we have also gotten pay raises outside of a JCBA. We have honest movement. Not Speedy Gonzalez movement, but movement.

Yet Hackcough, complains about that, I understand losing stuff through bankruptcy if Parker was really an Asshole he could've said like Lorenzo or Northwest management and said you get it back, when you union negotiates your pay back.

 

[Hackman]

Yet Hackcough, complains about that, I understand losing stuff through bankruptcy if Parker was really an Asshole he could've said like Lorenzo or Northwest management and said you get it back, when you union negotiates your pay back.

You understand nothing. Nut Driver you complain like a little 3 year old about your pissy management induced 5 year pay freeze, with a fully intact contract in place. You "understand losing stuff in bankruptcy"??? You mean like the $600,000 plus in wages, or how about the 75 plus holidays at half pay??? Thousands of hours of sick time lost??? How about weeks upon weeks of vacation???

15 years of never seen industry leading TWu sellout concessions never seen ever-ever-ever in airline history and you snivel about a 5 year pay freeze??? The TWu/IAm still can't get a contract after they promised they could get a deal with the TWu/IAm ASS-ociation after all the pain and anguish of 2003, MCIE and AFW shut down, and thousands laid off when the promises of "no layoffs" was broken. "Concessions for Jobs" was the TWu lie of the century.

Like I said before, you would be in the Rubber Room sucking your thumb with a binky and a straight jacket if AMFA sold you down the Dung River for 15 years.

I hope SWA management never steps on your career like AA and the TWu did to us 15 years ago. Really.

We will be reading about your meltdown in the newspaper on Sunday if that massive pain ever comes. Your candy ass would be head line news, and Dippy Dave would have to come change your diaper at Park View Hills.

 

[B737 driver]

You understand nothing. Nut Driver you complain like a little 3 year old about your pissy management induced 5 year pay freeze, with a fully intact contract in place. You "understand losing stuff in bankruptcy"??? You mean like the $600,000 plus in wages, or how about the 75 plus holidays at half pay??? Thousands of hours of sick time lost??? How about weeks upon weeks of vacation???

15 years of never seen industry leading TWu sellout concessions never seen ever-ever-ever in airline history and you snivel about a 5 year pay freeze??? The TWu/IAm still can't get a contract after they promised they could get a deal with the TWu/IAm ASS-ociation after all the pain and anguish of 2003, MCIE and AFW shut down, and thousands laid off when the promises of "no layoffs" was broken. "Concessions for Jobs" was the TWu lie of the century.

Like I said before, you would be in the Rubber Room sucking your thumb with a binky and a straight jacket if AMFA sold you down the Dung River for 15 years.

I hope SWA management never steps on your career like AA and the TWu did to us 15 years ago. Really.

We will be reading about your meltdown in the newspaper on Sunday if that massive pain ever comes. Your candy ass would be head line news, and Dippy Dave would have to come change your diaper at Park View Hills.

Cry me a river, so why didn't you leave American, like 20 years ago, to either SWA , or Fed EX , or UPS, or even Delta Airlines, You chose to stay and take the ****, that was your choice, or you could have retired from the Air Force, and had a second retirement.

 

[Hackman]

DEMAND your Negotiators bring you concessions as it is the Company will offer. What they claim is their best deal, so no matter what, the TWu will push through a yes vote for their company union corporate masters.

THEN vote it in beyond overwhelmingly by 100% ;YES, because the TWu needs concessions for jobs...then the layoffs and base shut downs will happen later.

Send the Company and the NMB the most powerful (only) message you can, the TWu loves concessions and ASSociations rammed in with no vote . Why are some of you it seems so beyond scared chitless to man up and take action?????? Man up and do what the TWu has done for 30+ years, vote yes, sellout and promise no more concessions, "WE WILL GET 'EM NEXT TIME.

I had to correct you delusions again Dippy Dave.