WN Mechanics seek mediation

But they don't have the power to negotiate nor force the company too.

And the NMB won't release anyone to strike.
 
700UW said:
But they don't have the power to negotiate nor force the company too.
And the NMB won't release anyone to strike.
How do you feel about binding arbitration?
 
Bad choice.

Takes the power away from the union and its members and your forced to accept what the arbiter decides.
 
One of ya brought up UAL and Teamsters Teamcare a page or 2 ago---  Teamcare is gone, dropped from the IBT proposal to UAL. 
 
700UW said:
Bad choice.
Takes the power away from the union and its members and your forced to accept what the arbiter decides.
Agreed. Never hand your bargaining power over to a third party of unknown position.
 
700UW said:
Mediator only facilitates, he doesn't negotiate
#1 this topic does not concern you.
#2 never did I say that they did.
#3 we know what the job of the mediator is.
#4 we don't need you telling us anything in our contract thread, soooo
#4 "BEAT IT PUPPET" 
 
700UW said:
Bad choice.

Takes the power away from the union and its members and your forced to accept what the arbiter decides.
Not 100% true here.  
 
D7571987 said:
One of ya brought up UAL and Teamsters Teamcare a page or 2 ago---  Teamcare is gone, dropped from the IBT proposal to UAL. 
Great to hear. I have a follow up question for you D757, but I will take it to the UAL thread. Hope they made all the other changes the membership was screamin about...
 
Binding arbitration is binding and you don't vote on it.

Go see what happened to the APFA at AA on their JCBA.
 
700UW said:
Binding arbitration is binding and you don't vote on it.
Go see what happened to the APFA at AA on their JCBA.
I normally agree with you but what then if the company you work for has been stonewalling you for years and they're making record profits?

The NMB obviously isn't releasing them and any type of "work safe" initiative is immediately called a job action and your company runs to the daddy judge.

Negotiating for 4 years is beyond ridiculous and I don't think I can blame AMFA for this one.

The TWU only got stuck on the hook with their deal in Fleet which passed by a hair because of what those guys did on the West coast. That's how I see it.

There has to come a time where we don't continue to feel like slaves in the airlines stuck in a process that has zero concern about us? It's very frustrating.
 
700UW said:
Binding arbitration is binding and you don't vote on it.
Go see what happened to the APFA at AA on their JCBA.
They got stuck with the Industry aggregate because they were too dumb at that moment to understand and accept the better deal. In that case it was actually a mistake to let the fools vote. But in a Union everyone gets to vote, even the fools.

Vive Le Association. lol.
 
Very glad to see the unions uniting and coming together.  No matter who represents who, we should all support one another for the betterment of all employees. Wish I could be there for the support. I do believe with all the groups getting together and protesting, it has a bigger message than just one single group. This way the shareholders as well as the general public will see that it is happening to all the groups. Been looking for this kind of uniting for some time now. No better time than the present.
 
 
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Southwest Airlines labor groups plan major show of solidarity at carrier's annual meeting
 
swamt said:
Very glad to see the unions uniting and coming together.  No matter who represents who, we should all support one another for the betterment of all employees. Wish I could be there for the support. I do believe with all the groups getting together and protesting, it has a bigger message than just one single group. This way the shareholders as well as the general public will see that it is happening to all the groups. Been looking for this kind of uniting for some time now. No better time than the present.
 
 
Business
Southwest Airlines labor groups plan major show of solidarity at carrier's annual meeting
 
I totally agree swamt :) Good luck to all of you and the groups represented.
Good article by Lewis Lazare.
 
Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly speaks as he...  
 
After this display of unity by many groups at SWA it actually got to him enough to make the next nego's with our pilots. Did it make any difference at all?  I do not know, I was not there, however, with that said, it did get GK to the nego table and maybe just maybe he saw how the company was treating our pilots (so I have heard). Would love to invite Mr Kelly to the table for our next nego session to see how the company is treating our mechanics.  But of course the company will completely change their tune in front of GK.  Lets see if we will get an offer for GK to join our nego's in July.  If he doesn't throw the offer out there like he did with the Pilots then our union leaders should approach him to join us.  Yea, he may say no, but then we would know where he sits with the mechanics group. Put the ball in his court and send him the invite guys, what would it hurt, heck you would have the man himself that can make a decision.  Let him see how the company is not providing any info about the scope in the future.  
Then the nego cmte could ask him if he is really serious about coming to terms on a contract, make him answer you guys face to face. The fellas are starting to get restless and it will get worse after the 4 year mark...
 
Here's a good article on the past votes in the airline industry. A nice reminder of the past offers getting voted down that had concessions in them.  Just like the company trying to get from us in their discussions of offers as of late.  I still say the company is going to have to change their approach on concessions if they really want to get a contract for the maint. group...
 
 
 
 

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