Kev3188
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Lol.
Wisconsin job creation rank falls to 38th in U.S
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SparrowHawk
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First, Governments (mostly) DO NOT create private sector jobs. Investors do!
Investors like stability. Uncertainty makes them spend elsewhere. The state of Wisconsin has been over the last 2 or 3 years in political turmoil. Scott Walker's victory has done nothing but enrage the Left, perhaps more than Obama enrages the right. Not a place I'd want to set up shop.
If I'm an investor I'm taking my bucks across the river into MN, a state with a history of lively political debate and stability in spades. MN has elected some of the most notable Liberals of all time, yet also put Michele Bachmann in Congress. in MN the tax structure is high, though not crazy high and tax rates alone do not make for a stable business environment. Many factors such as education of the potential workforce, potential for unionism, incentives from public and private sources to move to an area. Housing costs, school quality all factor in when a company starts up or expands.
To say that Wisconsin's performance is all Scott Walkers fault is as silly as blaming Minnesota's success solely on Mark Dayton.
Investors like stability. Uncertainty makes them spend elsewhere. The state of Wisconsin has been over the last 2 or 3 years in political turmoil. Scott Walker's victory has done nothing but enrage the Left, perhaps more than Obama enrages the right. Not a place I'd want to set up shop.
If I'm an investor I'm taking my bucks across the river into MN, a state with a history of lively political debate and stability in spades. MN has elected some of the most notable Liberals of all time, yet also put Michele Bachmann in Congress. in MN the tax structure is high, though not crazy high and tax rates alone do not make for a stable business environment. Many factors such as education of the potential workforce, potential for unionism, incentives from public and private sources to move to an area. Housing costs, school quality all factor in when a company starts up or expands.
To say that Wisconsin's performance is all Scott Walkers fault is as silly as blaming Minnesota's success solely on Mark Dayton.
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In other words, exactly like WI was prior to taking office.SparrowHawk said:
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Kev3188 said:
Can't honestly comment Kev as my knowledge of WI pre Walker is slim. I lived in MN and what I found there was generally a reasoned and responsible approach to tackling problems.
MN is a strange place politically. They elected a retired Pro Wrestler, a Conservative and recovering alcoholic as Governor and in each case the state did pretty well no matter who sat in the Governor's seat.
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Actually, SH described pre-Walker WI almost to a tee.
As for jobs, some may have left under Doyle, but it was Walker who promised to bring back 250k of them. Where are those?
As for jobs, some may have left under Doyle, but it was Walker who promised to bring back 250k of them. Where are those?
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/142860605.htmleolesen said:
The politics of Wisconsin's sluggish job growth
Walker vs. Doyle. The governor and his supporters say he has reversed a trend of sharp job losses under his predecessor, Democrat Jim Doyle, citing a decline of more than 140,000 jobs that occurred in Wisconsin during Doyle’s last three years. Walker’s critics counter that those lost jobs were part of a nationwide financial meltdown that generated heavy employment losses across the country.
Walker is correct in saying his job numbers to date (an increase of 6,000 private-sector jobs) are much better than Doyle’s second-term numbers (a decrease of 137,000 private-sector jobs over four years). But the governor’s assertion in his current TV ads that “we leveled things off” after the large job declines under Doyle comes with a big asterisk.
The post-meltdown job trend in Wisconsin had already shifted from decline to growth many months before Walker took office. According to the revised figures, Wisconsin added almost 30,000 private-sector jobs in Doyle’s final year in office, then lost almost 10,000 during Walker’s first year. The chart below shows the multi-year trend, with the vertical line showing when Walker took office:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/aug/19/scott-walker/scott-walker-says-best-two-year-job-growth-came-du/
Scott Walker says "best two-year job growth" came during his tenure
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What about the broader job count, including both the private and public sectors?
We found two earlier periods that top Walker’s two-year mark on the combined total of private and public-sector jobs. The Walker-era total was 53,564. Before the recession, from the end of 2003 to the end of 2005 -- in Doyle’s era -- the job count grew by 58,062. The other total that topped 2011-12 was post-recession, in the Doyle-Walker period of 2010 and 2011.
The bottom line here: Walker’s campaign claim falls short.
In researching this item, we found earlier instances in which Walker made a similar claim, but in more precise and political terms. Example: In May 2013, the spokesman for Walker’s office told the Journal Sentinel: "Today, Wisconsin's private-sector job growth is the best two-year gain under any governor in over a decade."
For this fact check, the Walker campaign pointed us to that same statement, made by the state’s workforce development agency.
But that qualifier -- "any governor" -- makes a difference in the accuracy of the claim. As we’ve said, viewed that way, and looking at private-sector jobs only, Walker’s two years run ahead of any similar period under Doyle. A Journal Sentinel story in May also reached that conclusion.
Voters are likely to hear that more precise claim as well in this election season.
So consider that a bonus fact check.
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"Wisconsin has seen its best two-year job growth in a decade," the Walker campaign told reporters in late July and early August.
Not true, we found: Private job growth was higher in 2010-11, in the final year of Doyle and the first year under Walker. And total employment including government jobs rose faster from 2003-05 and 2010-11 than in the two-year Walker period.
We rate his claim False.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/26/black-unemployment-is-troubling_n_6941646.html
In Wisconsin, the state with the highest annual African-American unemployment rate, nearly 1 in 5 black people are unemployed.
In Wisconsin, the state with the highest annual African-American unemployment rate, nearly 1 in 5 black people are unemployed.
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~1100 layoffs coming to Minnesota, and that doesn't include the companies who do business with Minnetac that get affected.
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/iron-range/3711529-us-steel-idle-some-production-minntac-affecting-hundreds-workers
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/iron-range/3711529-us-steel-idle-some-production-minntac-affecting-hundreds-workers
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I noticed something...In EVERY STATE blacks are the highest unemployed, yet Wisconsin is being chastised because it has the MOST unemployed blacks?
Are we really heading to a retardation(for lack of a better word) of society as a whole? We are grasping straws and throwing worthless figures out to prove a delusional point.
Are we really heading to a retardation(for lack of a better word) of society as a whole? We are grasping straws and throwing worthless figures out to prove a delusional point.
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You have to get down to NY which is 21 on the list to find a state where they black unemployment rate is below the national average and you are complaining that they still vote for dems? Do you actually believe they are so much better in contries where the republicans are in power? Neither side of the asile have a good plan.
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