Wisconsin job creation rank falls to 38th in U.S

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

BTW, for those that may not know, Walker was voted in largely on a campaign promise to create 250k jobs. Where are they?

It is not the governments place to create jobs Kev3188. 
 
That is a function of business.
 
The only thing the government can do is try to offer incentives to spur job growth.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

E-- I don't think it's free per se; remember those graduates will be contributing to the commons, whether it's in the form of their skill set, contributing to the tax base, etc.

The government funded less than half of my schooling, the rest I payed for out of pocket. That was AFTER working full time for 17 years.
 
I contribute both my skill and to the tax base. Got out of school Friday and had a full time job Monday.
 
Have not heard the end of it since from Tree, Glenn, and Dog. Apparently to them temporary funding for education is the same as laying up on welfare for 20 years. 
 
Libtards have a real double standard when it comes to public assistance. Making it a lifestyle is fine, using it as intended (temporarily and as a path to self sustainment) is an invitation for harassment. 

 

[Kev3188]

It is not the governments place to create jobs Kev3188.

Tell it to Walker; it was his campaign promise, not mine...
 

That is a function of business.

In WI, businesses are looking to hire. People are looking to work. The skills gap is a large part of what's stopping that from happening. Technical schools (aka junior or community colleges) have 2-3 year waits depending on what program someone wants. Eliminating that wait and getting people to work is win-win all around. By your own words, you're a prime example of that in action.
 

The government funded less than half of my schooling, the rest I payed for out of pocket.

No, your fellow Americans invested in you; just like you have done for countless others.

I contribute both my skill and to the tax base.

Exactly.

...And unless you only shop/buy gas/etc. at somewhere like Wal-Mart, you also very likely contribute to the local economy through consumer spending.

...Which of course supports other jobs...allows other people to put themselves through school, etc...

See how that works?

 

[Ms Tree]

What conservatives seem to not understand is that business do not operate on a field of dreams concept ... build it and they will come. Business build or expand based a real demand or a well researched expected demand. Give the buyers capital to buy and businesses will expand to meet demand.

 

[Kev3188]

Exactly.

 

[southwind]

Tell it to Walker; it was his campaign promise, not mine... In WI, businesses are looking to hire. People are looking to work. The skills gap is a large part of what's stopping that from happening. Technical schools (aka junior or community colleges) have 2-3 year waits depending on what program someone wants. Eliminating that wait and getting people to work is win-win all around. By your own words, you're a prime example of that in action. No, your fellow Americans invested in you; just like you have done for countless others.Exactly....And unless you only shop/buy gas/etc. at somewhere like Wal-Mart, you also very likely contribute to the local economy through consumer spending....Which of course supports other jobs...allows other people to put themselves through school, etc...See how that works?

Wait! In one breathe your stating people's college tuition should be paid for them, in the next your saying by buying consumer goods, Im supporting jobs (the way it should be and not handouts) which in turn, enables people to pay for a better education!
So, which is it?

 

[Kev3188]

You really don't know how the American economy works, do you?

 

[eolesen]

It is not the governments place to create jobs Kev3188. 
The only thing the government can do is try to offer incentives to spur job growth.

The other problem with government creating jobs is that they often wind up to be short lived. We've all seen what happened with the jobs "created" by the ARRA -- they were quick hits that resulted in a lot of temporary employment, but the long term effects were always questionable.

Here's another that's actually on-topic -- Wells Fargo announced this week they're closing down a loan processing center in Milwaukee, eliminating ~1000 jobs which were "created" by the Home Affordable Refinance Program. Apparently, fewer people are delinquent on their mortgages than they were five years ago, so now the jobs go away.

TSA is probably the one exception in the past decade or so where government created jobs, but even those jobs initially came at the expense of the private contractors who were already doing it (and Federal bloat is responsible for the rest).

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

No, your fellow Americans invested in you; just like you have done for countless others.

You know what. That is absolutely right.
 
They INVESTED in me, and they have already got a return on their money.
 
Where do we see a return from the lifelong welfare crowd?
 

Exactly.

...And unless you only shop/buy gas/etc. at somewhere like Wal-Mart, you also very likely contribute to the local economy through consumer spending.

...Which of course supports other jobs...allows other people to put themselves through school, etc...

See how that works?

Of course I see how that works.
 
What I don't understand is why you would direct that comment toward me.
 
You are obviously trying to make some sort of point but I don't see the angle your coming from.
 
Can you clarify your position?
 

What conservatives seem to not understand is that business do not operate on a field of dreams concept ... build it and they will come. 

What the hell are you talking about?
 

Business build or expand based a real demand or a well researched expected demand. 

Thank you Captain Obvious.
 

Give the buyers capital to buy and businesses will expand to meet demand.

I have a better idea. Why don't buyers EARN their capital. 
 
What amazes me is people will work a non skilled entry level job their whole life then complain about compensation. Why should a company invest in you when you won't even invest in yourself?
 

Exactly.

Exactly what? Tree did not say anything that was not painfully obvious to everyone on this forum.
 
Did you know water was wet?
 
Exactly.

 

[700UW]

 

[Dog Wonder]

What I don't understand is why you would direct that comment toward me.
 
You are obviously trying to make some sort of point but I don't see the angle your coming from.
 
Can you clarify your position?
 
What the hell are you talking about?
 
Exactly what?

All those social promotions they gave you were a bad idea.

 

[southwind]

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage"

 

[700UW]

This county isnt a democracy, its a republic, did you miss that day in History Class?

 

[southwind]

Only reason any of you are bashing Walker is because he's a union buster and has nothing to do with the lack of jobs, otherwise you'd all should be raising hell about Detroit!

 

[southwind]

This county isnt a democracy, its a republic, did you miss that day in History Class?

Yep but people like you wanting to run it like a democracy, is the problem!