Why Tim Nelson is Dangerous to IAM-represented employees at United Airlines

[jet job]

nelson you saying there is no-scope doesn't mean it isnt there. quit nelizing the facts.

 

[jet job]

Nelson, "I will be taking all the fluff with an objective lowlight sheet once we unpack TA2"

Jet Job " no doubt about it Nelson, why quit lying and campaigning now. Nelson you seem to know everything TELL US NOW! You have lost every job and office you ever held with the union. BUTT out of our business. LMOAFAU

You

 

[pjirish317]

Socplat13,

Let me ask you this. What do you consider "invonuntary furlough". Lets say that a UA station currently staffed with UA mainline employees is reduced to all UAX flights. The company decided to "vendor" the work out, but give the employees furlough packets for available stations. If the employee chooses to take the furlough, would'nt that be considered vonuntary? That is where you guys dropped the ball. The dates are all well and good, but if your not willing/can't move for whatever reason, the company will point to the language you agreed to and say, sorry he/she "CHOSE" not to move therefore it is considered a "voluntary" furlough. We at US lived almost that exact same language. Why can't you see that? And I am by no way a Tim supporter, many on here can verify that fact, so can you help us understand why that language is ironclad in the above scenario?

Still waiting for an answer. It really shouldn't be that difficult. Why are you avoiding the above question?

 

[Kev3188]

'Cause it might make them realize just what a minefield this T/A could prove to be?

Besides, who has time to answer very real questions when there's a smear campaign to wage!

 

[jet job]

Your waiting for answer, you have been answered on numerous occasions go back about 30 pages. And work back.. .....

 

[jet job]

How many times does it have to be explained ?

 

[jet job]

'Cause it might make them realize just what a minefield this T/A could prove to be?

Besides, who has time to answer very real questions when there's a smear campaign to wage!

Smear you say Nelson can post lies call people scabs and pimps and when he gets critiqued he and his cheerleaders cry foul. Welcome to the big leagues Nelson

 

[Kev3188]

Your waiting for answer, you have been answered on numerous occasions go back about 30 pages. And work back.. .....

No, I've been dodged and/or peddled pre packaged talking points for 30 pages.

How many times does it have to be explained ?

Correctly? Just once. Now'd be a great time to answer both PJ & I. Kthx...

 

[Tim Nelson]

How does one negotiate a contract with only 7 stations under scope? Never mind tossing out a 60 year contract with mainline scope and solid work rules.

 

[jet job]

Once again Nelson, go back about 30 pages

Multi level jobs protection had been explained. Everyone understands your motivations for trying to shoot this TA down. It is your political platform or perhaps you will try to peddle your influence on the open market.

Remember folks you read it here first. What do you think Nelson, just before Christmas?

 

[Kev3188]

Read what here first?

I'll tell you what I've yet to read; any clear/direct explanations from you...

 

[Tim Nelson]

Yaawwwwnnnnn

 

[737823]

Jetjob/Socplat13,
Why did the IAM stand by and allow UA to outsource the six stations to Eagle? And in the past they have rolled over and allowed UA to outsource MIA, MHT, STL, etc. When will this end? Why did you agree to this seven stations nonsense? What is next, three stations?

Josh

 

[pjirish317]

Socplat13,

Let me ask you this. What do you consider "invonuntary furlough". Lets say that a UA station currently staffed with UA mainline employees is reduced to all UAX flights. The company decided to "vendor" the work out, but give the employees furlough packets for available stations. If the employee chooses to take the furlough, would'nt that be considered vonuntary? That is where you guys dropped the ball. The dates are all well and good, but if your not willing/can't move for whatever reason, the company will point to the language you agreed to and say, sorry he/she "CHOSE" not to move therefore it is considered a "voluntary" furlough. We at US lived almost that exact same language. Why can't you see that? And I am by no way a Tim supporter, many on here can verify that fact, so can you help us understand why that language is ironclad in the above scenario?

You have yet to explain how in the above scenario, the language is "ironclad". If you can't explain why, in the above scenario, the language is "ironclad", then you are sadly way out of touch, or just plain ignorant.

 

[Kev3188]

I think we're gonna be waiting a looooonnng time, PJ...