Whose Contract Survives For Fleet Service

[700UW]

Don't let reality effect your thought process.

 

[totobird]

700UW you are wrong again. It is NOT 35% of the US group. It is based on 35% of the "combined" group of AWA and US.
Get the facts right.

 

[libertybell]

I hear the IAM District boys are nervous if there is an election they know there toast if a run off vote happens.

Looks like we will see all the AGC's who we havent seen in many many months all running around trying to save there 90,000 a year jobs.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

Do you not understand when a company files a Section 1113 C motion, it forces the union to meet, negotiate and try to reach a new agreement?

Now who is the union the membership or the soon to be unofficials ?

 

[700UW]

The AGCs and GCs are the elected representatives of the membership.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

The AGCs and GCs are the elected representatives of the membership.

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Simple
I ask who is the union?

 

[700UW]

The union is every member. However when it comes to negotiations and contract administration, the members who are elected by their peers deal with those issues.

I know what you are trying to do and it will not work.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

The union is every member. However when it comes to negotiations and contract administration, the members who are elected by their peers deal with those issues.

I know what you are trying to do and it will not work.

I think I know what you have been trying to do and it wont work
Only when its convient the employees are the union
otherwise the soon to be unofficial reps
are the union.
Please answer me this
Why did the iam take a strike vote if infact we never could go on strike ?

 

[700UW]

You always take a strike vote when voting on a contract and if the contract was voted down and the stike vote approved you would have went on strike.

And explain to me how 5,000 fleet service members can take off of work and go to CCY and negotiate a contract.

You elected grievance committees, General Chairman and local, district and international officers for the purpose or representing the membership in contractual matters.

You are trying to misconstrued how things work.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

You always take a strike vote when voting on a contract and if the contract was voted down and the stike vote approved you would have went on strike.

And explain to me how 5,000 fleet service members can take off of work and go to CCY and negotiate a contract.

You elected grievance committees, General Chairman and local, district and international officers for the purpose or representing the membership in contractual matters.

You are trying to misconstrued how things work.

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try to sell that to the U troops
the iam will never stand a chance with all of the future F/S employees
imo
the company boxed them into a corner locked them up and threw away the keys
they deserved it.
by the way where are the future iam unofficials?

 

[robbedagain]

The union is every member. However when it comes to negotiations and contract administration, the members who are elected by their peers deal with those issues.

I know what you are trying to do and it will not work.

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if the union is every member, then why did the IAM sell the little and medium sized cities down the river several times over the last 2 yrs alone first with the mainline cities being turned into mainline express cities then the pay down to 13.01 an hr for those cities, then FAILED to NEGOTIATE before the JUDGE imposed a 21% paycut then the IAM allowed the company to get rid of 30 cities and 600 employees that went with it. If that is what you would call a union is every member, I dont really see how IAM is going to survive this merger of AWA and US Airways union vote

 

[700UW]

The IAM could not have negotiated until the airbus dispute was settled. The company was going into bankruptcy anyhow and let me explain something to you for the several time, the company wanted what they wanted and how they wanted it.

The company wanted to get rid of the small stations and your fleet service brothers and sisters voted them away, not the union officials.

When in bankruptcy the company has all the power and all the cards, the workers have only have the nine steps a company must follow in order to get an abrogration.

It could have been like the Lorenzo days before 1113 exsisted and there would have been no negotiations, just an imposition.

And I guess if it easier for you to throw stones and insults then actually find out what happened and actually get involved before hand to help the situation, from where I sit, you just sound like another bitter and disgruntled person who can't accept reality.

Mtc lost 46% of their workforce which was almost 2,000 people, and you are whining about 600, which both groups voted in, not the respective negotiating committees.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

"The IAM could not have negotiated until the airbus dispute was settled. The company was going into bankruptcy anyhow and let me explain something to you for the several time, the company wanted what they wanted and how they wanted it."
oh F/S ....airbus what do they have in common
30 cities 600 ( and there wil be many more )
imo the iam had the opertunity to save the these jobs but failed to properly represent the working class.simple as that .
So what is their sales pitch for the future????????????

 

[700UW]

Apparently you have no comprehension skills.

If you feel the IAM failed then sue them for a DFR.

And then you can sue all your coworkers who voted yes too.

 

[isthisok]

700UW would you just shut the f*** up already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give your keyboard a rest for gods sake.