Whoa! AA-KE Codeshare

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I've lied about nothing.

was AA lying that their LF was down in every global region despite the least amount of capacity growth (in fact they cut)

btw, AAL stock is leading the industry down on higher fuel prices.

 
You have lied repeatedly, and continue to do so.
Here is an example of a (fabricated) statement , which you still have not proven to be true:
 
DL's strategy with VS has already generated far more revenue for DL than any other airline partnership has for any other airline in the same period of time.
 
Need some more?  Here is another WT gem from this thread:
 
ATI only exists where the US has Open Skies.
 
Do you want to continue fraudster?
We know you have no credibility, but have you no humility also?
 
BTW:  stop trying to change the subject.

 

[WorldTraveler]

poor you.

such an angry little person looking to get revenue from someone who speaks the truth about the industry that you don't want to hear.

I'm sure Doug is very proud of your valiant efforts to defend AA.

you do realize that AA's shrinking RASM combined with flat to reduced capacity means that AA is a SHRINKING AIRLINE.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

poor you.

such an angry little person looking to get revenue from someone who speaks the truth about the industry that you don't want to hear.

I'm sure Doug is very proud of your valiant efforts to defend AA.

you do realize that AA's shrinking RASM combined with flat to reduced capacity means that AA is a SHRINKING AIRLINE.

 
Poor you!
 
For somebody that can write 10000 word diatribes about the grandeur of DL, you sure are having a tough time finding any data to back up your made up lies?
 
I'm sure spectator is still proud of you for your valiant effort to sell the DL is the greatest narrative.
 
You do realize that you pretended to be an expert, made up lies, got caught and now are deflecting with all your might to change the subject.
 
You sure are a pathetic, DL obssessed, little man who can't stand the fact that you got caught lying. 
You are a LIAR and a FRAUDSTER!

 

[700UW]

 
Poor you!
 
For somebody that can write 10000 word diatribes about the grandeur of DL, you sure are having a tough time finding any data to back up your made up lies?
 
I'm sure spectator is still proud of you for your valiant effort to sell the DL is the greatest narrative.
 
You do realize that you pretended to be an expert, made up lies, got caught and now are deflecting with all your might to change the subject.
 
You sure are a pathetic, DL obssessed, little man who can't stand the fact that you got caught lying. 
You are a LIAR and a FRAUDSTER!

The Whole Truth!

 

[robbedagain]

+100000000000000000

 

[WorldTraveler]

again, I pity someone that has to call someone else a liar because they can't stand the fact that I have accurately predicted what is going on in the industry.

AA, not me, said that DL/VS' growth at LHR is impacting AA.

if you choose not to believe it, it is not me a liar because you haven't been given the facts that you think you need.

You've been given umpteen other facts about umpteen other situations and you can't seem to accept them so why should I bother going to the effort to fine something else for you?

quite simply, AA is on a very uncomfortable trajectory.... RASM declines, a shrinking network, rapid growth of regional carriers while mainline shrinks, the largest aircraft order book in the industry, rising labor costs as the price for getting the merger approved, and rising fuel prices after AA went out and spent even more money based on low fuel prices which are going back up after less than six months.

if you feel great about that scenario, then spend all the time you want focused on my statement regarding whether DL is really seeing one of the fastest returns on a JV or not.

you should be spending a whole lot more time focused on what you need to do to get people at the helm of AA who know how to create a truly viable future instead of the smoke and mirrors that have marked Parker's entire airline mgmt. career.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

again, I pity someone that has to call someone else a liar because they can't stand the fact that I have accurately predicted what is going on in the industry.

AA, not me, said that DL/VS' growth at LHR is impacting AA.

if you choose not to believe it, it is not me a liar because you haven't been given the facts that you think you need.

You've been given umpteen other facts about umpteen other situations and you can't seem to accept them so why should I bother going to the effort to fine something else for you?

quite simply, AA is on a very uncomfortable trajectory.... RASM declines, a shrinking network, rapid growth of regional carriers while mainline shrinks, the largest aircraft order book in the industry, rising labor costs as the price for getting the merger approved, and rising fuel prices after AA went out and spent even more money based on low fuel prices which are going back up after less than six months.

if you feel great about that scenario, then spend all the time you want focused on my statement regarding whether DL is really seeing one of the fastest returns on a JV or not.

you should be spending a whole lot more time focused on what you need to do to get people at the helm of AA who know how to create a truly viable future instead of the smoke and mirrors that have marked Parker's entire airline mgmt. career.

 
I really have to pity somebody that has to spin and deflect as much as you because you can't stand to be caught lying.
 
You said, you made up the statement that the DL-VS JV has already generated more revenue than any other airline partnership in the world over the same period of time.
 
Not AA.
 
You have provided 0 facts to back up your claim (since it is an outright lie)
 
Quite simply, you are on an uncomfortable trajectory into getting choked up by your own tangled web of lies and fairy tales.
 
The issu is not whether DL is seeing returns on the DL-VS JV.  The issue is your inability to back up your wild statement that the JV has produced revenue unmatched by any other airline partnership over the same time.  Don't try to spin or weasel your way out.

 

[MetalMover]

so, is Wall Street wrong? AAL stock is down more than any other airline in pre-market trading.

 

I guess regular trading hours don't count, eh?
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DAL&ql=1

 

[LDVAviation]

again, I pity someone that has to call someone else a liar because they can't stand the fact that I have accurately predicted what is going on in the industry.

[...] you should be spending a whole lot more time focused on what you need to do to get people at the helm of AA who know how to create a truly viable future instead of the smoke and mirrors that have marked Parker's entire airline mgmt. career.

 
So you think you know more about running an airline than Parker?
 
And, what exactly makes you think that?  The fact that you are making your 16,405th post on an airline forum?
 
Dude, you are the one who deserves our pity.  You have 16,404+ posts on a forum where the consensus is that you are a fraud and liar.  If you are still trying to prove something, it is sad how you don't see that the game is over.  So sad!

 

[WorldTraveler]

given that Parker has yet to demonstrate success in running an airline on par with his peers except by taking from his employees and running up debt, it wouldn't be hard for anyone to do better, including nAAtive mgmt.

but Parker was smart enough to pay off AA's union leaders in order to convince them that he could do better.

they have the deal they wanted... no profit sharing, shaky fundamentals that are only getting worse, and a revenue environment that is turning out just like I said it would

you can get worked up about a statement I make.

Wall Street looks at the real numbers.

if I was half as wrong as you think I am, then you should have no problem ignoring me and walking away.

it is precisely because I am right that you are trying as hard as you are to try to silence me.

won't work.

the fundamentals of the AA/US merger were wrong from the beginning and it will become increasingly apparent to everyone else what I said many months ago.

btw, you are right that UAL has now taken the leadership position in pulling airline stocks down.

 

[robbedagain]

so now you go from your pro dl diatribes to DP cant run an airline yet this DAM THREAD IS AA-KE Codeshare..
 
GO GET PROFESSIONAL HELP BEC YOU SURE AS HELL NEED IT

 

[LD3]

Don't waste your time Robbed, WT has single handedly taken the fun out of this forum. Look at all the people that have left. One of my posts was deleted last week for a question I asked, but this nitwit is allowed to hijack every thread and spew lies and misinformation...

 

[700UW]

I guess someone doesnt know how to read an earnings call, AA has paid down all the debt they need to pay down for now, and they made their creditors 100% whole, you cant say the same about the idol you worship DL airlines.
 
Lets put your Airline track record VS Doug's and lets see who actually got/gets paid to run an airline, not a keyboard.

 

[WorldTraveler]

the fun of the board was lost when some people wear their allegiance to their airline on their shirt sleeves.

We get that AA pulled off a nice BK.... it was all predicated on cutting labor costs by nAATive mgmt... but Parker came along to try to save US since it was obvious that US' strategy of raiding other carrier hubs would come to bite his backside....and ÚS labor was looking for money for all they did to turn US around.

So Parker went off and smoozed with AA labor to convince them he could do a better job of running AA than nAAtive mgmt. and they would be spared the cost cuts that AA imposed in BK.

problem is that AA's revenue was heavily compromised by US' pricing policies and Parker was counting on getting a big bounce as fares were supposed to go back out.

After the DOJ had their say and WN was all over new AA's top markets, the fare bounce that Parker was expecting hasn't materialized.

but he had to sign huge pay increases to keep labor from revolting and he thought he had the clear to pay for them since oil prices went down.

but oil prices are going back up, WN's impact on AA's domestic markets is being matched in int'l markets, and AA is still unable to pull down enough capacity in order to match the higher fare environment.

Right now, Asia looks bright for AA only because it was so bad before.

but KE is not going to turn AA's TPAC around.

you know, I was wrong that JL would be impacted by the reductions in the Japanese markets; it was in fact AA that took the cuts while AA redeployed its capacity into non-Japan markets, the only ones of which are working are from DFW.

so, KE bowed out of the contest to AA - from DFW.

I'm still waiting for a scenario how AA is going to benefit from a partnership with KE without alienating JL and AA's other partners.

but wait, there is no need to speculate because the AA-KE partnership is ONLY the local DFW-ICN route. No connections. no other routes.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks LD  so sad  yet so true    its a nowonder he got canned from a.net