What would happend if we merge again?

[PullUp]

Honestly? I can't believe I'm gonna say this but, I'd use US Airways. I remember talking to a business traveler who thought AWA was a joke, but was impressed by US Airways. It didn't matter that AWA was the healthier airline financially, he was viewing the comparison from a business traveler standpoint.

Noooo!
US Airways brand has never been 'top tier', always (like AVIS?) number two (or three or four or eight...), but trying harder.
American is an internationally recognized grade-A, business-oriented, professional international airline that just happens to fly to your town.
US Airways is an eastcoast brand thought of as a big regional airline that happens to fly to some international destinations.
Hell, the Wall Street Journal can't even get the name right when it pops up in the news! They still refer to US Airways as USAir (note to WSJ, please update your style manual).
There is no comparison in 'branding' and consumer perception. What's under the hood/behind the curtain is another story, more grounded in reality.
'American' (of course with a new swoosh paint scheme) is the only name to use. Why buy it if you ain't going to use it?
Cheers.
LCC=The NEW American (swoosh!)

 

[Rookie Jr]

What would happen if we merge? I'll assume you're referring to a merge with American.

I'll venture a guess. All work groups (with the exception of the pilots) will merge in the manner they did with AWA/US; ie. like adults.
The US pilots (represented by usapa) will perform their normanl shenanigans and the American pilots will eat them for lunch.
Management (armed with experience with usapa) will serve that lunch to the American pilots on its best china.

 

[fatherabraham]

The US pilots (represented by usapa) will perform their normanl shenanigans and the American pilots will eat them for lunch.
Management (armed with experience with usapa) will serve that lunch to the American pilots on its best china.

Hey Rookie,
Are you suggesting that the minority pilot group cannot sue/cry/whine/make stupid vids etc as you westies so dearly claim is your God given right? So no way is it reasonable for the tail to wag the dog.....is that what ur saying. Thought so
FA

 

[Move2CLT]

Hey Rookie,
Are you suggesting that the minority pilot group cannot sue/cry/whine/make stupid vids etc as you westies so dearly claim is your God given right? So no way is it reasonable for the tail to wag the dog.....is that what ur saying. Thought so
FA

WWJD?

 

[john john]

I'll venture a guess. All work groups (with the exception of the pilots) will merge in the manner they did with AWA/US;

And how was that done?

 

[Rookie Jr]

Hey Rookie,
Are you suggesting that the minority pilot group cannot sue/cry/whine/make stupid vids etc as you westies so dearly claim is your God given right? So no way is it reasonable for the tail to wag the dog.....is that what ur saying. Thought so
FA

No, angry old person. That's not what I am saying. I suspect that usapa will enter seniority negotiations demanding DOH and nothing else. When they don't get exactly what they want they will hire yet another sleazy law firm and start ridiculous law suits and do whatever they can to stall, obfuscate, get a do over.

Tail wagging the dog? You mean like getting an arbitrator's decision and then begging for negotiation?

Get over yourself. In the end you will lose and you know it.

 

[Rookie Jr]

And how was that done?

Easy answer. The other work groups followed their own policies/procedures and then honored their agreements.

You know the rest, I'm sure. If you don't I will remind you that final and binding is just that, final and binding.

 

[john john]

Easy answer. The other work groups followed their own policies/procedures and then honored their agreements.

And how was that done

 

[cynic]

And how was that done

This is what I love about some of you guys. Ignore the fact that the rules were different in those situations yet you expect to get the same outcome.

 

[Phoenix]

Easy answer. The other work groups followed their own policies/procedures and then honored their agreements.

You know the rest, I'm sure. If you don't I will remind you that final and binding is just that, final and binding.

 

[john john]

Easy answer. The other work groups followed their own policies/procedures and then honored their agreements.

You know the rest, I'm sure. If you don't I will remind you that final and binding is just that, final and binding.

Can the other work groups get back biding agreements and policies/procedures they gave up during concessionary bargaining?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Can the other work groups get back biding agreements and policies/procedures they gave up during concessionary bargaining?

Apples and oranges. You're talking about negotiations with the company whereas a DFR is between members of the represented group and the union. Can you get back your union dues?

 

[fatherabraham]

No, angry old person. That's not what I am saying. I suspect that usapa will enter seniority negotiations demanding DOH and nothing else. When they don't get exactly what they want they will hire yet another sleazy law firm and start ridiculous law suits and do whatever they can to stall, obfuscate, get a do over.

Tail wagging the dog? You mean like getting an arbitrator's decision and then begging for negotiation?

Get over yourself. In the end you will lose and you know it.

Simmer down rookie,
No anger or insults directed at you, yet u label me " angry old person ". makes me go hmmmm.
Obviously I struck a nerve........sorry sometimes the truth is painful.

You impied that the larger group (AA) would put us in our proper place, much to ur pleasure. Therefore you validate such behavior only when it suits you. Were not naive.......your the one with integrity issues. Ta ta for now
FA

 

[Move2CLT]

Simmer down rookie,
No anger or insults directed at you, yet u label me " angry old person ". makes me go hmmmm.
Obviously I struck a nerve........sorry sometimes the truth is painful.

You impied that the larger group (AA) would put us in our proper place, much to ur pleasure. Therefore you validate such behavior only when it suits you. Were not naive.......your the one with integrity issues. Ta ta for now
FA

WWJD?

 

[Rookie Jr]

Simmer down rookie,
No anger or insults directed at you, yet u label me " angry old person ". makes me go hmmmm.
Obviously I struck a nerve........sorry sometimes the truth is painful.

You impied that the larger group (AA) would put us in our proper place, much to ur pleasure. Therefore you validate such behavior only when it suits you. Were not naive.......your the one with integrity issues. Ta ta for now
FA

I am not upset and you did not strike a nerve. You simply don't make sense. I did not imply anything. Stated it pretty clearly and it does not give me pleasure to know that we might have to go through this all over again. The real heartbreak is that the west pilots will now be lumped in with the east; a place we absolutely do not belong.

You did come across in the post I responded to as angry. You come across in this post as condescending. You must be a real pleasure to fly with. I am, however, looking forward to dealing with you web board bullies in person some day. Promises to be a real eye opener for people like you.