WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I SIGN A UNION CARD?

[700UW]

It has not been answered with facts, where in the RLA or within the NMB Rules and Regulations does it state upon a change of representation a new CBA get negotiated.

Keep avoiding the real answer.

 

[gonzo]

It has not been answered with facts, where in the RLA or within the NMB Rules and Regulations does it state upon a change of representation a new CBA get negotiated.

Keep avoiding the real answer.

LOL......its been answered several times. I'm not sure what you are wanting me to say Mr. 70? You have a predetermined answer and apparently that answer has alluded me just tell me what you want me to say and I will......if its the truth.

 

[gonzo]

I am still waiting for the answer you want me to give Mr. 7.

 

[smmech]

700 is asking a question that is not even relevant to us.. The answer to his question is NOWHERE, with his proof at WN and so on. But below is a copy of the RLA that tell you how to make changes to a CBA, not create a new one.
I answered your question know answer mine.. Where does the phase "Ammendable date" appear in Sec 6 of the RLA?
This is your responce to all "Answers" to your question, that sec. 6 is only for changes to CBA's at there Ammendable date.

156. Procedure in changing rates of pay, rules, and working conditions

Carriers and representatives of the employees shall give at least thirty days' written notice of an intended change in agreements affecting rates of pay, rules, or working conditions, and the time and place for the beginning of conference between the representatives of the parties interested in such intended changes shall be agreed upon within ten days after the receipt of said notice, and said time shall be within the thirty days provided in the notice. In every case where such notice of intended change has been given, or conferences are being held with reference thereto, or the services of the Mediation Board have been requested by either party, or said Board has proffered its services, rates of pay, rules, or working conditions shall not be altered by the carrier until the controversy has been finally acted upon, as required by section 155 of this title, by the Mediation Board, unless a period of ten days has elapsed after termination of conferences without request for or proffer of the services of the Mediation Board.

 

[700UW]

Section 6 is traditional Contract Negotiations when a contract becomes amendable the amendable date is not till 2009.

 

[smmech]

Section 6 is traditional Contract Negotiations when a contract becomes amendable the amendable date is not till 2009.

LOL.... wrong :down:

 

[700UW]

Prove I am wrong.

 

[BoeingBoy]

the amendable date is not till 2009.

You left out one little detail - the IAM contract is not amendable till 2009. Isn't there currently another contract for mechanic & related?

Jim

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Yes, there are currently 2 contracts.........IAM and IBT. There is the issue.........a transition agreement should be done.

 

[700UW]

If the NMB rules single carrier status the ibt contract will cease to exsist once a transition agreement is reached.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

If the NMB rules single carrier status the ibt contract will cease to exsist once a transition agreement is reached.

Where does it say that the the other contract will disappear if there is a transitional agreement? Wouldn't both disappear if a transitional agreement is negotiated? Aren't both contracts used, to come up with a transitional agreement?

I really wish that you would back up your statements with some references to the "facts" that you continually post.

 

[Awa Contract]

At contract negociations and at the two meeting the company admitted that the Teamsters have a different point of view on the IAM contract being the surviving contract. And could it be that they know the Teamsters are right because at both functions the company said they would be willing to open negociations with the Teamsters. Why is the IAM not pursuing this - could it be that they made some kind of sweetheart deal while meeting with the company to discuss our futures behind our backs.

Parker and Hemmingway know they will have to open negociations that is why they stated they would.

The other point of interest is that if the IAM contract would be the surviving contract that kind of removes your statement about the outsourcing not coming back in house if the Teamsters win. By the way it was very evident at the meeting with Parker that they have no intentions of bringing the work in house from El Salvadore. Contract by whoever that is what they are intending, and that was the result of 5 hours of BS last wed.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

How about a vote by the people? Then the surviving union will be established. Then a transition agreement that would take the BEST of both contracts. Neither side is very happy about their current contracts so shouldn't everyone be open to TRYING to get the best from both sides???? Seems like the best thing to do at this point..........just my opinion.

 

[gonzo]

Prove I am wrong.

Mr. 7.........you have tried to cash to many rubber check here. From now on you need to provide proper documentation before you will be believed. Proving you wrong is easy........we just wait for you to type some thing.

 

[700UW]

You have not done it yet, so why bother now?

Keep trying though I am amused by your posts and you still have not showed me where in the RLA it states upon a change of representation that you get to renegotiate the CBA.