Racer X
Veteran
- Feb 20, 2016
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Clueless aren’t you?You iam guys did nothing the twu picketed and were fighting to get out of a sham bk contract , you iam did nothing till your insurance was in jeopardy. So stop it with your bs.
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Clueless aren’t you?You iam guys did nothing the twu picketed and were fighting to get out of a sham bk contract , you iam did nothing till your insurance was in jeopardy. So stop it with your bs.
I'm thinking NYer probably knows. Rather he wants to divulge it or not is another story. And of course CB and P. Rez would know. Maybe I'm making this up or thought I heard it somewhere, but seems as though I heard that was one thing we were able to hold onto from the LAA contract. But don't shoot me if I'm totally wrong on that. NYer has stressed that there is quite a bit of language that those on the LAA side are gonna have to get use to. Maybe this is part of it.That pretty much sums it up. Maybe a few other things but that's the general differences. So any guesses who's language we'll end up with?
thks for that jester,I can only comment on clt as I’ve been told things aren’t the same from hub to hub(another problem)here management handles the staffing numbers as a cc I rotate from gate to gate within the work area that I bid each day.theres an assign lead for each work area he handles what flight agents work by assigning them to a given flt and around here the lead is responsible for everything but flying the damn planeThis is the feedback I am getting from several LUS fleet agents who went as pref hires with LAA, as to the differences between LUS leads and LAA crew chiefs:
1) Management shall not order or direct a clerk (ramp agent) to preform any assignment as all work related instructions must go through a CC. Exceptions being no immediately available CC or a formal superseding directive issued.
2) Unless through voluntary choice, a CC has no obligation to assist in dumping aircraft such as in-bounds or terminating flights including wing walking/marshalling, hooking-up air and power, watering or setting-up gate with equipment.
3) CC working the line shall have no obligation to either push back or wing walk during departure.
4) CC's shall not be ordered or instructed by Management to perform clerk duties, including loading or unloading aircraft, serving lavs or load carts.
5) Work daily assignments for clerks shall be handled solely by a CC control person, not Management.
6) Any previously unknown absence of a clerk or problematic work ethic shall be addressed with the CC, and the CC will address any issues at their discretion with Management, as needed.
In glaring contrast with LUS, Management always orders fleet service agents into various duties, handles the daily staffing assignments, expects Leads (CC's) to bring wands, headsets and sometimes equipment to gates, be present at arrivals and departures, and re-assigns Leads into ramp crew positions should there not be enough fleet service agents available on the ramp.
That's the largest issues and difference I have heard between Leads and CC's.
That pretty much sums it up. Maybe a few other things but that's the general differences. So any guesses who's language we'll end up with?
If no one is worried about our card drive why in the last one did the twu team up with the teamsters to screw our card drive. And the one before that had people who were dead on the company list. Your twu association spin is getting old. The company has a company union especially with sito and the twu gave in on the 04 contract with no snap back. If we had our union then we would not have gave in at least without snap back . The pilots got snap back. Weaas why do you care what union us mechanics are in. You are making top dollar for fleet at least till nov when delta gets there raise. I do not know who’s paying you to post but who ever it is needs to give you new material your a broken record.
I've seen what you are talking about Steve. I have not seen that too much here in DFW. I used to work zone support for many years and found that if you do consistent quality work you will get a fair shake. I don't think having mgmt assign people would do well with the work force so used to crew chiefs handling things.To be honest, I've always kept contact with mgmt to a minimum due to many of them not understanding how to deal with things. You must have had some really rotten crew chiefs cross your path Steve.umm, i believe a few posters have let the cat out of the bag, and NYer isn't one of them. sounded to me, as if the laa c/c will survive.
it's an issue to me, because i'll be GD'ed if i pay dues to an entity that allows a$$hole crew chiefs to fu9k with me or people i'm friends with.
like i said, if you bid a SPECIFIED shift, it's harder for the c/c to fu9k with you. the c/c may try, with the 'operational need' absurd excuse. we need more specified shifts, not general shifts and let the c/c decide.
Cream over here it’s much easier for the assign lead to fk with you than the lead or cc,not that it’s any better
I'm thinking NYer probably knows. Rather he wants to divulge it or not is another story. And of course CB and P. Rez would know. Maybe I'm making this up or thought I heard it somewhere, but seems as though I heard that was one thing we were able to hold onto from the LAA contract. But don't shoot me if I'm totally wrong on that. NYer has stressed that there is quite a bit of language that those on the LAA side are gonna have to get use to. Maybe this is part of it.
Haven’t a word.Have you heard how many of those 26 CC spots are going to freight
umm, i believe a few posters have let the cat out of the bag, and NYer isn't one of them. sounded to me, as if the laa c/c will survive.
it's an issue to me, because i'll be GD'ed if i pay dues to an entity that allows a$$hole crew chiefs to fu9k with me or people i'm friends with.
like i said, if you bid a SPECIFIED shift, it's harder for the c/c to fu9k with you. the c/c may try, with the 'operational need' absurd excuse. we need more specified shifts, not general shifts and let the c/c decide.
I've seen what you are talking about Steve. I have not seen that too much here in DFW. I used to work zone support for many years and found that if you do consistent quality work you will get a fair shake. I don't think having mgmt assign people would do well with the work force so used to crew chiefs handling things.To be honest, I've always kept contact with mgmt to a minimum due to many of them not understanding how to deal with things. You must have had some really rotten crew chiefs cross your path Steve.