What Exactly Has The Union Done For You?

[john john]

" If you look at the Attendance policy set by your union it is severe and unbending. At hp the Sups at least were able to work with agents and not throw a employee out the door if at all possible , you cant do that with a union contract."

CWA Passenger Service Empolyees union contract has NO attendances policy in it.Attendance control and discipline is solely set by management.

 

[john john]

Let' see, what has My Union done for me?? The IAM that is...For starters, they stood by as my wages slid downhill to the tune of %40+, then they had the Balls to raise my dues a few months later. The final Screwing came when they once again stood on the sidelines while my Station along with nearly 20 others had their Fleet work outsourced. Of course when one of the Union Reps came to our station, he told us that they had no other option (Powerless) with the Company. Then for the Final Whazoo, they took dues out of my severence checks. When I questioned that, I was told by the Union Clown that if it where not for him and the IAM , that we would not even be getting severence checks....Gee thanks. It seems that I recall furloughed agents collecting severnce prior to the IAM so called Contract was in place. Please note , that NO Jobs were lost or outsourced in the Union Reps Station. So I can safely say that for the entire run of my contract that I got perhaps one wage increase followed by THREE rounds of Concessions followed by the Loss of my Job!!!!

[post="309766"][/post]​

CWA still has two mainline jets a day the station stays mainline.The IAM kept catering in PHL

 

[john john]

Without sounding too one sided on this issue, I would respectfuly like to know exactly the benifits of the CWA / IBT have done for you all.
Fact one: They have managed to take money out of your check for Dues. They Negotiated outsorcing of YOUR jobs. They have assisted you in lowering the standard of living and rate of pay you recieved. ( did your Dues go down? did the Union share in this loss?.

Fact two. Times and the working enviroment have dramaticaly changed in the USA over the last decade. Paying a Res agent 25.00 ph to answer a phone is nuts. Look in the local classifieds see what you would make if your union Rules forces this Merger to fail and you are out of work.

We all need to work together assist your co worker, Take care of the Paying Passenger do an honest days work for a FAIR wage.

America West brings a new chance to make this work for all concerned. together we can make a great place to work and we can all say with pride" I work for US AIRWAYS"

VOTE NO ON A MERGER BETWEEN CWA AND IBT Neither have earned your dues

[post="309693"][/post]​

10-7-2005
Mgmt implements our bankruptcy agreement to end the Winston-Salem hiring freeze...
Following through on their commitment to CWA to end the INT hiring freeze, management announced today that there will be a 30-person Res new hire class beginning on October 24. This is welcome news and signals management’s intention to keep Winston-Salem as a viable and key res center. Per our CWA contract, INT must remain open and functioning for at least the duration of our contract (2012), but we also don’t want to see it shrink in size. We believe management’s bankruptcy court agreement with CWA to end the INT hiring freeze will mean that the center will not only remain open, but will remain a viable center with continuing opportunities for res agents.

 

[john john]

"did your Dues go down? did the Union share in this loss?."

Yes they went down CWA dues is done by a % of my pay

 

[john john]

Fact two. Times and the working enviroment have dramaticaly changed in the USA over the last decade. Paying a Res agent 25.00 ph to answer a phone is nuts. Look in the local classifieds see what you would make if your union Rules forces this Merger to fail and you are out of work.

[post="309693"][/post]​

FACT my wife and friend just got a job as a travel agent makeing 38 k a year
FACT WN pays Res $20.00hr (estimations)
FACT AA pays Res $20.00hr (estimations)
FACT NW pays Res 20.00hr (estimations)

 

[john john]

25.00 ph to answer a phone is nuts.
Due you answer a phone

 

[john john]

Fact two. Times and the working enviroment have dramaticaly changed in the USA over the last decade.
This is exactly why we need a union

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

FACT my wife and friend just got a job as a travel agent makeing 38 k a year
FACT WN pays Res $20.00hr (estimations)
FACT AA pays Res $20.00hr (estimations)
FACT NW pays Res 20.00hr (estimations)

[post="309946"][/post]​

how can a estimations as you call be a fact

 

[john john]

if your union Rules forces this Merger to fail




If the Merger and Company fails it will be managements fault the unions do not run the company.Our productivity level is equaling or exceeding that of any major carrier in our industry.The CWA members have a choice unlike 1999 when the Company needed concessions.

 

[john john]

how can a estimations as you call be a fact

[post="309955"][/post]​

Can somebody please post for B737MECHANIC what top out pay is for res at
WN
NW
DL
AA

 

[bulldog]

Can somebody please post for B737MECHANIC what top out pay is for res at
WN
NW
DL
AA

[post="309966"][/post]​

I guess John John is pro Union ? thats ok but like all the crud that we hear from the Union it is distorted and not factual

WN most of the RES agents are in the 12.00 range and they just closed several call centers down many lost jobs

NW
DL
AL
UA
all above are in bankruptcy and will be forced to take severe cuts to emerge from said Bankruptcy.

Sorry to burst your bubble

 

[bulldog]

25.00 ph to answer a phone is nuts.
Due you answer a phone

[post="309948"][/post]​

Yes I deal with the Public on the Phone. And have done so for many years in several different industries.

IF your spouse and her friend just got hired at 38k py, why dont you join them after all it is $18.20 per ph. What is the overall package benifits/non rev ??

The only thing that anyone is trying to say here is that if you step back and look at the overall performance of the Unions in this industrie, you will find that the performance is not good at all. The only ones who have kept the same standards is the Union themself. God forbid if Jimmy Hoffa cant afford to gas up his Hummer.

Why would the CWA and IBT want to join together ?? I believe that THEY KNOW that the good people in Res and CSR have lost faith in their ability to keep the promises they made

Just my humble opinion

 

[longing4piedmont]

Wow, 27 post later and not ONE specific example of you unions have done for you. What do you want to bet we can go another 27 with the same result?

 

[700UW]

Lets see what unions have done for me at US:
Decent wage
Vacation
Medical and Dental Coverage
Grievance Procedure
401K match
A say in the workplace

Not being at the company's whim and have them change things as they please.

I can go on and on forever, but all you anti-unionist will never have a clue.

Do you think you have the 40 hour work week cause the company wants to give it to you?

Do you think child labor laws were enacted because the companies asked Congress to?

Unions are behind most major pieces of labor law the protects workers, management is most certaintly not.

And go look up labor law in North Carolina, you will find it under "Master and Servent" not Labor Law.

 

[longing4piedmont]

Lets see what unions have done for me at US:
Decent wage
Vacation
Medical and Dental Coverage
Grievance Procedure
401K match
A say in the workplace

Not being at the company's whim and have them change things as they please.

I can go on and on forever, but all you anti-unionist will never have a clue.

Do you think you have the 40 hour work week cause the company wants to give it to you?

Do you think child labor laws were enacted because the companies asked Congress to?

Unions are behind most major pieces of labor law the protects workers, management is most certaintly not.

And go look up labor law in North Carolina, you will find it under "Master and Servent" not Labor Law.

[post="310140"][/post]​

Well we are at post number 29 and still nothing specific and the last one one from someone who eats at the union trough. You would think he could site one example. I have all of the above benefits as do those at DL which is not union. I could not be more anti-union and would find another job before I paid union dues to the IAM goons, but to each his own.

Next.... Any body want to give ONE SPECIFIC example