Fix the nose gear? Did you look at the pix? More than just the nose gear. More like off to the chop shop. One less aircraft to paint in the new colors.algflyr said:
According to catcrew, it looks like it was tail number 113.
Glad everyone was ok. Once they fix the nosegear, perhaps it will head off to the paint shop and be the next in line for the new colors...
US incident at PHL
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-airways-dividend-miles-pre-merger/1560217-just-witnessed-us-accident-phl.html
Just Witnessed US Accident at PHL
Sitting in the A-West lounge, just watched what I think was a US A319 bounce twice on takeoff from 27L, then have front gear collapse at high speed. Can't see where it stopped but smoke from the west end of 27L. Will update as I see more.
Update 6:28pm, listening to tower in LiveATC.net ... aircraft evacuating, emergency vehicles en route, people walking around near aircraft.
Update 6:30pm - emergency vehicles told to take care due to # of people walking around, probably thinking of the Asiana SFO incident where someone was run over. All PHL departures and arrivals halted airport at "alert 2" status per tower.
Update 6:40pm - no more smoke from the area of where the aircraft likely stopped. I'm still shaking and I was only watching from afar. Will type up my recollection shortly. No pics and can't see where it wound up from the west end of the A-West lounge. Hope everyone's getting out OK, would have been some pretty strong G-forces from what I saw.
Update 6:50pm - tower reports A320 aircraft involved.
Here's what I saw ... at approx 6:26 pm or so, I was in the US Airways Club in Terminal A-West over gate A15, able to see roughly the eastern half of runway 27L. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a plane get 30-50 ft in the air, then come down and bounce on the runway, then be airborne for another 2-3 seconds, then land with more weight towards the front landing gear. Front gear collapsed, sparks on the runway, it then skid out of my line of sight. Light white smoke visible for about 7-10 min afterwards. Winds are still pretty strong here, but I doubt that was the primary cause. Weather otherwise clear and sunny here.
Update 6:53pm - airport on alert 1 status, should reopen runways 27R and 35.
Update 6:56pm - steady number of ambulances still passing the terminals west towards the accident site. No idea on injuries.
Update 7:05pm - thanks to one of my coworkers via Twitter, this is report is encouraging: https://www.facebook.com/DennisFee/p...?stream_ref=10 I still do not know which flight # it was.
Update 7:12pm - first takeoffs from runway 27R as we approach sunset. I will not speculate here as to the cause of the accident, I just don't have enough information.
Update 7:18pm - to the media asking, unfortunately I don't have pictures or video. While the smoke was briefly visible over the west end of Terminal A-West, my long distance attempts at iPhone pics of it did not turn out as it was white smoke on a bright background.
Update 7:28pm - two ambulances with lights on just went east about a minute apart past Terminal A-West away from the accident scene. At least 4-5 buses heading towards the accident site presumably to collect passengers.
Thanks to CREN for noting the incident flight was US 1702. That means it was a legacy US East A320, not older than about 2000, and possibly quite a bit newer.
Update 7:44pm - poor quality image of a an ambulance leaving the scene from the A-West lounge opposite gate A15: https://twitter.com/khecht/status/44...311360/photo/1
Barring new information, my updates are likely to taper off or cease at this point. I've reached out to the Chairman's Preferred desk at US Airways should their flight safety personnel, NTSB, FAA, etc. investigators wish to interview me.
I think it is extremely likely that at least the same part of the accident I saw was captured by CCTV cameras as local news media routinely show a similar view to the vantage point I had and I hope that indeed exists and is available to the investigators.
Update 8:20pm - two more ambulances leaving with lights on. A number of what appears to be police cars just raced down 27L towards the accident site. No idea what that's about.
LiveATC link, listen starting at 24:10, includes limited radio communications with cockpit: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kp...2014-2200Z.mp3 (A bunch of folks are having trouble getting more than 9 min of audio. Download it without a media plugin or try pulling the KPHL Tower archive from 3/13/2014 2200-2230Z from http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php)
Final update 11:00pm - As I left the airport about an hour ago the passengers were being released, apparently to leave the secure area at A-East. Numerous news media there doing interviews. I ducked out - been a long day but certainly nothing like what those folks experienced. They're very fortunate, as this could have been a really bad accident.
Last edited by phlwookie; Today at 9:02 pm..
Just Witnessed US Accident at PHL
Sitting in the A-West lounge, just watched what I think was a US A319 bounce twice on takeoff from 27L, then have front gear collapse at high speed. Can't see where it stopped but smoke from the west end of 27L. Will update as I see more.
Update 6:28pm, listening to tower in LiveATC.net ... aircraft evacuating, emergency vehicles en route, people walking around near aircraft.
Update 6:30pm - emergency vehicles told to take care due to # of people walking around, probably thinking of the Asiana SFO incident where someone was run over. All PHL departures and arrivals halted airport at "alert 2" status per tower.
Update 6:40pm - no more smoke from the area of where the aircraft likely stopped. I'm still shaking and I was only watching from afar. Will type up my recollection shortly. No pics and can't see where it wound up from the west end of the A-West lounge. Hope everyone's getting out OK, would have been some pretty strong G-forces from what I saw.
Update 6:50pm - tower reports A320 aircraft involved.
Here's what I saw ... at approx 6:26 pm or so, I was in the US Airways Club in Terminal A-West over gate A15, able to see roughly the eastern half of runway 27L. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a plane get 30-50 ft in the air, then come down and bounce on the runway, then be airborne for another 2-3 seconds, then land with more weight towards the front landing gear. Front gear collapsed, sparks on the runway, it then skid out of my line of sight. Light white smoke visible for about 7-10 min afterwards. Winds are still pretty strong here, but I doubt that was the primary cause. Weather otherwise clear and sunny here.
Update 6:53pm - airport on alert 1 status, should reopen runways 27R and 35.
Update 6:56pm - steady number of ambulances still passing the terminals west towards the accident site. No idea on injuries.
Update 7:05pm - thanks to one of my coworkers via Twitter, this is report is encouraging: https://www.facebook.com/DennisFee/p...?stream_ref=10 I still do not know which flight # it was.
Update 7:12pm - first takeoffs from runway 27R as we approach sunset. I will not speculate here as to the cause of the accident, I just don't have enough information.
Update 7:18pm - to the media asking, unfortunately I don't have pictures or video. While the smoke was briefly visible over the west end of Terminal A-West, my long distance attempts at iPhone pics of it did not turn out as it was white smoke on a bright background.
Update 7:28pm - two ambulances with lights on just went east about a minute apart past Terminal A-West away from the accident scene. At least 4-5 buses heading towards the accident site presumably to collect passengers.
Thanks to CREN for noting the incident flight was US 1702. That means it was a legacy US East A320, not older than about 2000, and possibly quite a bit newer.
Update 7:44pm - poor quality image of a an ambulance leaving the scene from the A-West lounge opposite gate A15: https://twitter.com/khecht/status/44...311360/photo/1
Barring new information, my updates are likely to taper off or cease at this point. I've reached out to the Chairman's Preferred desk at US Airways should their flight safety personnel, NTSB, FAA, etc. investigators wish to interview me.
I think it is extremely likely that at least the same part of the accident I saw was captured by CCTV cameras as local news media routinely show a similar view to the vantage point I had and I hope that indeed exists and is available to the investigators.
Update 8:20pm - two more ambulances leaving with lights on. A number of what appears to be police cars just raced down 27L towards the accident site. No idea what that's about.
LiveATC link, listen starting at 24:10, includes limited radio communications with cockpit: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kp...2014-2200Z.mp3 (A bunch of folks are having trouble getting more than 9 min of audio. Download it without a media plugin or try pulling the KPHL Tower archive from 3/13/2014 2200-2230Z from http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php)
Final update 11:00pm - As I left the airport about an hour ago the passengers were being released, apparently to leave the secure area at A-East. Numerous news media there doing interviews. I ducked out - been a long day but certainly nothing like what those folks experienced. They're very fortunate, as this could have been a really bad accident.
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jimntx
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Obviously, a professional job by the f/as and the cockpit. Nose wheel collapses and there are no crew injuries and only minor passenger injuries--probably from taking their carry-ons with them down the slide.
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wings396 said:
Time to rethink the numbering. I'm surprised the airlines don't generally avoid the number 13, like hotels avoid having a 13th floor. Not that I put much stock in the superstition surrounding the number 13, but it's just as easy to avoid it with very little planning. My mom, on the other hand, was not pleased when my freshman dorm room was on the 13th floor; I had a blast!
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N416US was Flt.5050 that went into the bay in LGA and N413US was the aircraft that had the chock left in the main gear wheel well in that landed at GSO. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19890920-0
http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/n413us/photo.shtml
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N666US is a Delta (NWA) 747-400. I worked on it many times (with a devilish grin on my face).1AA said:
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Looks like great work by the F/A. And it did not hurt to have 13 Belgian firefighters among the passengers. I would assume they did not bring their carry-ons out with them.
(Passable) Google translation of news story from Brussels:
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/983/Nieuws/article/detail/1811703/2014/03/14/13-Belgen-zijn-big-news-in-de-VS.dhtml
A plane carrying also thirteen Belgians in Philadelphia hastily evacuated after the device was gone. During take off his nose wheel "After ditching everyone evacuated smoothly! Problem takeoff ... For clarity! ONE INJURED! No need to panic!" Writes one of the Belgians on Facebook.The twelve are all firefighters and paramedics. Because they are trained to work in difficult situations, they could also help in the evacuation of the aircraft. Were on board the aircraft 149 passengers and five crew members. A passenger needed medical attention, but was not seriously injured. According to one of the passengers, there was a lot of wind when the plane tried to take off. The runway was closed for a time because of the accident. The unit would fly to Fort Lauderdale. After several hours of waiting passengers have finally made it to their destination, Fort Lauderdale, left. The group of Belgians are part of the Fire Observers and traveled to the U.S. for a fire training.
(Passable) Google translation of news story from Brussels:
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/983/Nieuws/article/detail/1811703/2014/03/14/13-Belgen-zijn-big-news-in-de-VS.dhtml
A plane carrying also thirteen Belgians in Philadelphia hastily evacuated after the device was gone. During take off his nose wheel "After ditching everyone evacuated smoothly! Problem takeoff ... For clarity! ONE INJURED! No need to panic!" Writes one of the Belgians on Facebook.The twelve are all firefighters and paramedics. Because they are trained to work in difficult situations, they could also help in the evacuation of the aircraft. Were on board the aircraft 149 passengers and five crew members. A passenger needed medical attention, but was not seriously injured. According to one of the passengers, there was a lot of wind when the plane tried to take off. The runway was closed for a time because of the accident. The unit would fly to Fort Lauderdale. After several hours of waiting passengers have finally made it to their destination, Fort Lauderdale, left. The group of Belgians are part of the Fire Observers and traveled to the U.S. for a fire training.
nycbusdriver
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1AA said:
I'll bet it's a beast!
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