US Airways to Recall Pilots as Fleet of 100-Seat Jets Grows

[aquagreen73s]

ok, you realize that East contract is the worst, yet you mount your high horse to tell the west guys what they should do about pay for some plane not here yet, plus whats in the East contract say about A340 pay....that's some funny stuff there tough guy
p.s. how do you know that you will be senior to that f/o..anyway

Because this particular F/O, like most other West F/Os, are junior to me.

Are you on meds? Seriously...your questions have me curious as to your state of mind.

 

[Elevation]

Because this particular F/O, like most other West F/Os, are junior to me.

Are you on meds? Seriously...your questions have me curious as to your state of mind.

So you got an inside track on the new senority list! Please share. :blink:

 

[USA320Pilot]

TheWatcher,

TheWatcher said: "Are you not tired of posting highly erroneous information? Anyone that believes PHX-TLV will work belongs on the other side of a nut house. They do not deserve to walk free amongst the sane folk."

USA320Pilot comments: I will say it again for you. US Airways senior management recently met with the ALPA Training Committee. Management informed the Committee that the A340's will be obtained and they now intend to operate the aircraft between PHX-TLV prior to the potential new Asian service. If the Company does not receive authority to operate flights to China then the A340's will be used to Europe.

If you believe this is erroneous information then would you take up your thoughts with the ALPA MEC and Company? Apparently you believe you know more than those who make route decisions.

Separately, Scott Kirby has told the pilots that he believes pay scales by aircraft groupings (widebody, narrowbody, and EMB-190) would reduce aircaft pilot training events and in turn would create value for the corporation. This value, and the value estimate used by ALPA E&FA and the Company according to the negotiators, can be used to help boost pilot pay, benefits, and other contract items.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Itestwell]

TheWatcher,

TheWatcher said: "Are you not tired of posting highly erroneous information? Anyone that believes PHX-TLV will work belongs on the other side of a nut house. They do not deserve to walk free amongst the sane folk."

USA320Pilot comments: I will say it again for you. US Airways senior management met wit hte ALPA Training Committee this week. Management informed the Committee that the A340's will be obtained and they now intend to operate the aircraft between PHX-TLV.

If you believe this is erroneous information then would you take up your thoughts with the ALPA MEC and Company? Apparently you believe you know more than those who make route decisions.

Separately, Scott Kirby has told the pilots that he believes pay scales by aircraft groupings (widebody, narrowbody, and EMB-190) would reduce aircaft pilot training events and in turn would create value for the corporation. This value, and the value estimate used by ALPA E&FA and the Company, according to negotiators...can be used to help boost pilot pay, benefits, and other contract items.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

I think you may have misheard. Kirby, in a few Crew News sessions, has stated PHL-TLV, and possibly PHX-FRA. He has said that repeatedly. Never heard him say PHX-TLV tho....

 

[USA320Pilot]

In an email I received from a MEC Representative, with comments from the Training Committee, they specifically said PHX-TLV.

Separately, in a recent interview with the PHL Inquirer, after meeting with PHL government officials, Doug Parker indicated the company was interested in flying PHL-TLV. Nonetheless, MEC officials reported the company told them they were interested in PHX-TLV A340 service.

Could the MEC be wrong? Absolutely, but they did indicate PHX-TLV.

In my opinion, the company has a number of options for new transatlantic service and can adjust its widebody fleet/new aircraft accordingly. New routes could be flown to places like Oslo, Copenhagen, Moscow, Tel Aviv and London Heathrow from Philadelphia and from Phoenix to Frankfurt, London Heathrow, and Tel Aviv. I believe Andrew Norcella and his department are looking at a number of different options and it will be interesting to see what they decide.

Regardless, we should know their final decision shortly.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[TheLarkAscending]

I believe Andrew Norcella...

There is no r in Nocella.

 

[700UW]

Heathrow?

No open skies yet and no slots available, keep up your M.O. of blowing smoke up people's rear ends amazing how you can't even see how they use you.

How much of your salary do you give your pimp?

 

[Itestwell]

In an email I received from a MEC Representative, with comments from the Training Committee, they specifically said PHX-TLV.

Separately, in a recent interview with the PHL Inquirer, after meeting with PHL government officials, Doug Parker indicated the company was interested in flying PHL-TLV. Nonetheless, MEC officials reported the company told them they were interested in PHX-TLV A340 service.

Could the MEC be wrong? Absolutely, but they did indicate PHX-TLV.

In my opinion, the company has a number of options for new transatlantic service and can adjust its widebody fleet/new aircraft accordingly. New routes could be flown to places like Oslo, Copenhagen, Moscow, Tel Aviv and London Heathrow from Philadelphia and from Phoenix to Frankfurt, London Heathrow, and Tel Aviv. I believe Andrew Norcella and his department are looking at a number of different options and it will be interesting to see what they decide.

Regardless, we should know their final decision shortly.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

Typo. It's PHL-TLV. That's my guess.... DP also said in one of the Crew News sessions that they are "running the numbers" for PHX-FRA and they are not convinced that it would work....so that makes me doubt PHX- TLV even more..

 

[USA320Pilot]

700UW,

Does it make you feel good to insult and ridicule people?

Charles Simmons said, "Ridicule is the first and last argument of fools," which I believe is an accurate view of an individual like your self.

It appears the greater your feeling of inferiority that yo obviously experienced (LavMan), the more powerful is your urge to conquest, and the more violent the emotional agitation you display.

I find it interesting that you no longer work at US Airways, but yet you spend a lot of time on this message board.

Remmeber..."A man who lives, not by what he loves but what he hates, is a sick man" -- Archibald Macleish

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[careerfurloughee]

There is no r in Nocella.

LOL. And there is no X in PHL.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Heathrow slots coordinator warns access will remain 'highly scarce' in open skies era

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Jim

 

[700UW]

Ok Mr Propaganda, proof lies right here.

From the July 26, 2002 Charlotte Observer:

UNIONS CAN SINK US AIRWAYS WITHOUT AGREEMENTS FROM ALL ITS UNIONS, AIRLINE'S FUTURE IS BLEAK
In recent days US Airways has made much progress toward ensuring that it will have a future. It has reached tentative contract restructuring agreements with its pilots, flight attendants and the Transport Workers
Union, which represents the dispatchers, simulator engineers and flight crew training instructors, and with subsidiary PSA Airlines' pilots and flight attendants.

The International Association of Machinists (IAM) unit representing mechanics is close to a deal, and the IAM Fleet Service negotiators are making good progress.

But that's not enough.

The Communication Workers of America (CWA), which represents customer service and reservation agents, remains far from agreement with the company.
US Airways is on the brink of court-ordered bankruptcy because its situation is "unsustainable." Failure to improve the situation will have devastating effects on employees, customers and companies that depend on US Airways.

The airline has received a "conditional" federal loan guarantee approval, but can't use those funds unless it gets restructuring agreements with all labor groups, in accordance with the business plan submitted to the Air
Transportation Stabilization Board (ATSB).

Needed for loan guarantees

Major obstacles remain in the way of a voluntary restructuring.

US Airways may not be able to reach agreements with lenders without tentative agreements with the remaining unions. Unless it has those agreements the company wouldn't get final ATSB loan guarantee approval,
government sources believe.

How bad is the situation? The carrier continues to burn cash during what is historically the best-performing time of year. Ten months after Sept. 11, US Airways has not resolved its cost problems, the economy remains sluggish,
revenue is off 20 percent and low-cost competitors are aggressively attacking its market share. The industry has not recovered as expected.
Domestic fares are at 15-year lows. Shifts in buying patterns and travel options indicate airlines may never get the revenue per available seat mile they previously enjoyed.

Disturbing reports

US Airways needs restructuring agreements for either a voluntary restructuring or successful bankruptcy reorganization. If the company gets union concessions and qualifies for government financing, then if it's forced into bankruptcy, it probably could get in and out of bankruptcy
quickly.

What's disturbing are reports that the CWA leadership is misleading its members. Last Friday, company negotiators asked the union to meet, to try and resolve their differences. The union said its negotiators couldn't meet,
but its advisers would be available. However, I'm told that when management tried to schedule a meeting, they were told the advisers had other commitments. Meanwhile, the CWA issued a report telling its members the company met with the advisers last weekend - which management disputes.

Brinkmanship by any union could push the airline into bankruptcy. It's disappointing to see a relatively small group of employees risk the destruction of a viable company, with a devastating effect on 40,000
employees and their families.

No one can be sure what will happen in bankruptcy, but it's certain that if the company reorganizes and successfully comes out of bankruptcy, the labor groups that don't have tentative agreements with the company prior to bankruptcy will lose.

As in other union negotiations, the parties that reach savings targeted in the business plan will get a bankruptcy protection letter, which protects against even deeper salary and benefit cuts if the company enters
bankruptcy.

Some may face pay cuts

If the company files for bankruptcy, workers in labor groups without that bankruptcy protection letter may face deep cuts in pay and benefits, loss of unused sick and vacation time, slashed retirement benefits and a crash in
the value of common stock in 401(k) accounts. In addition, they'll work for a smaller airline that will hand out layoff notices at once with no severance pay, and will pay members of unprotected unions significantly less.

Each day the company moves nearer bankruptcy. New chief executive officer David Siegel has brought a breath of fresh air to management. US Airways'best chance to survive is for unions and creditors to bet on him and his team. Employees wanting to keep their jobs must impress upon union rank-and-file employees the importance of ordering union leaders back to the bargaining table at once, to reach an agreement that is 85 percent of the targeted concessions.

The choice is simple: Either all stakeholders move past their anger, frustration and denial to obtain and ratify restructuring agreements, or the carrier will almost certainly enter bankruptcy.

History has shown only two major airlines have successfully restructured in bankruptcy - not good odds for this company to continue operation.

USA320 is a US Airways captain

MEC CODE-A-PHONE UPDATE

July 26, 2002

This is Roy Freundlich with US Airways an MEC update for Friday, July 26, with two new items:

Item 1. Today the Charlotte Observer published an anti-union editorial from one of our pilots, titled "Unions can Sink US Airways," that aggressively promotes management’s objectives on achieving concessions from other labor groups. The editorial goes so far as to suggest that the CWA union leadership, who represent customer service employees, is misleading their members on their negotiating activity, and implies that management’s side of a dispute is more accurate.

This editorial does not in any way represent ALPA’s position, understanding, or sentiment, on other unions and their sincere efforts to represent their members. ALPA has received no reports, nor would it assign any value to reports, that suggest that any union is misleading their membership. The pilot author of the editorial holds no union position in ALPA. The anti-union public statements from one of our pilot-ALPA members is regrettable.

We urge all pilots to contact their reps or the Comm Center for accurate updates on restructuring negotiations and the activity of other unions. We also request that all pilots refrain from promoting any management anti-union propaganda or chastise other employees in the media. There is little to be gained from such activity other than embarrassment for yourself, your fellow pilots, US Airways, and ALPA.

That about sums you up!

 

[ClueByFour]

Heathrow slots coordinator warns access will remain 'highly scarce' in open skies era

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Jim

That's the understatement of the century. US will actually have to pay top dollar for LHR slots. Tempe does not pay full freight for anything (used 340s, Shares, glassware, anything in the F cabin, etc).

 

[BuffaloJoe]

That's the understatement of the century. US will actually have to pay top dollar for LHR slots. Tempe does not pay full freight for anything (used 340s, Shares, glassware, anything in the F cabin, etc).

Parker doesn't even pay Top Dollar for his beer, he drinks Bud Light! (YUCK)

 

[TheWatcher]

If you believe this is erroneous information then would you take up your thoughts with the ALPA MEC and Company? Apparently you believe you know more than those who make route decisions.
Regards,

USA320Pilot[/font]

I believe i have by asking you directly.

You have attempted to time and time again set yourself up as the self appointed messiah of company planning, insider information, mind reading and decisions. When you stop pretending to be what you are not, then i will stop asking you to prove it
Stop filling the role of Miss Cleo