Us Airways Emb170

[flyin2low]

How about a more updated schedule. It's well past November 03......

 

[passed_over]

Why dont they just have the EMBs and CRJs in the red livery like Metro had. Red is the short haul division and navy is the long haul divison. The blue is our long haul, dual class product, the red our enhanced single class product for short haul. Both would just wear US Airways titles. I think that would be pretty simple, differentiates it slightly while retaining the marketing power of the US Airways name alone.

With the way things are going, it'd make more sense to call the Express US Airways and paint US Airways Special Big Plane on the dwindling mainline fleet. Some of our customers in certain markets could easily fly to a different city each week untilizing a different hub and still never set foot on an actual US Airways aircraft. If I'm correct there are much more Express aircraft and flights than there are mainline ones.

I was on an Express flight in PIT where a customer asked the FA how many airlines made up US Airways- they were under the impression that it was like Star Alliance, just a collection of regionals operating under a single brand (it kind of is these days, especially the PIT hub). They had obviously come in on one Express and connected onto the other. The flight attendant didnt explain it to him very well and I think he was left with the impression that there is not an actual airline called US Airways (this was on one of our lovely contract carriers that arent known for thier sharp flight attendants or for bothering to wear a uniform).

Light Years,

I like your suggestion for the 2 color schemes. Makes sense to you and I but alas we are not management. I was hoping that MAA was going to have just the USAIRWAYS name on the planes. And I hope that MAA will slowly replace MESA. Get them out of the US family.

Unfortunately the MESA cancer is here to stay. Dave love's his boy Ornstein. He will do to the mainline what he is doing to ALG and PDT. As for A/C well suited for the east coast market the Dash8-400 would be much better suited for the east coast as it is for Horizon on the west coast

 

[the turtle]

This "cancer" that you speak of generates U a positive income...few aspects of U can make that claim...

 

[BoeingBoy]

turtle,

If you have the references I'd like to see verification of the "positive income". I've tried to find out what is happening financially with both the W/o's and contract carriers, but the info doesn't seem to be publically available.

I have seen somewhere that the "contract" carriers are cash positive - we take in more revenue than we pay for the capacity, but have seen no accounting for the costs we "absorb" for them (gates, fuel, insurance, etc).

Jim

 

[Light Years]

Sorry to revive an older post, but just wanted to add to the chatter about the 70-seaters.

UA announced some new UAX routes today operated with CRJ700 aircraft, which we've pretty much established to be the inferior product from the passenger perspective (to the Embraer 170)

The routes are

IAD-AUS
SFO-AUS
DEN-RDU
DEN-BHM
IAD-BHM

Those AUS flights are pretty long, just makes me wonder about some markets we could open with the 170s... AUS, SAT, OKC, maybe even COS or ABQ...

Most interestingly there is a first class cabin on these United Express flights, so our alliance partner thinks F is neccessary for this niche, but we dont.

As customers, would you rather have the all Economy, Shuttle style seating (more spacious than mainline Economy), or regular Economy and a small premium cabin? Does it make a difference with flight length? Say BUF-PHL as compared to CLT-AUS?

 

[Cisco]

The UAL -700's are Mesa and have 1st class because that is the way they were ordered for America West. AWA then went with the -900's and thus the dual class planes ended up at UAL.

The CRJ is for sure a pilots airplane, fast and nice to look at. The ERJ-170 has a very comfortable cabin and a seat pitch greater than the U A320. Also the ERJ has a range more than 400 nm greater than the CRJ and is able to utilize short runways such as 17/35 in PHL with payload and range which tickles tummies everywhere.....

The delivery schedule proposed for the aircraft was 3 each month until april and then four each month for several months and then back to 3 aircraft each month. That was supposed to start in November, the first aircraft has yet to leave Brazil so all bets are off on when exactly anything will happen.

h34r:

 

[TomBascom]

Most interestingly there is a first class cabin on these United Express flights, so our alliance partner thinks F is neccessary for this niche, but we dont.

As customers, would you rather have the all Economy, Shuttle style seating (more spacious than mainline Economy), or regular Economy and a small premium cabin? Does it make a difference with flight length? Say BUF-PHL as compared to CLT-AUS?

If those are my only two choices I want the F cabin.

But what I really want is an F cabin with Shuttle pitch in coach. Laptop power and room to unfold at every seat throughout the fleet. A few power ports in the gate areas wouldn't hurt either.