US Air to Address Creditors on Takeover plan

[BoeingBoy]

Again, US knows the capacity that is being flown under their code... the reservations is all handled in US' res system. They know the seat map, type of aircraft being used (in case one is substituted), and whether the flight operated. If a flight cancels, the inventory is removed from the res system. All US carriers manage CAPACITY PURCHASE codeshares thru the host carrier's res system.
There are verifications that are done using comparisons to operations data which may not be done using the same system as the mainline carrier, but all revenue and capacity data is in the mainline carrier's res systems which are linked to the revenue accounting systems.
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Tell me how much of US' regional carrier capacity is flown under non-CPAs. And so far as I know, US has no joint ventures which are reported differently.

Turboprop ops are generally under revenue sharing agreements for all the legacy carriers (AS may be an exception - I haven't delved that deep into their SEC filings).

Maybe you know for sure that the res system at US can tell whatever system does the traffic report information, but I don't.

Knowing the seat map is different than knowing how many seats are actually usable on a given flight on a given day. It's my understanding that the CRJ's are especially prone to weight/balance issues that cause restrictions on the number of usable seats. A seat not available for a passenger to occupy produces no ASM's. While those seats may be sold, the passengers affected would be rerouted and the res system would be none the wiser.

Again, I'm merely guessing why US reports the way they do. If you don't like my guess give us the benefit of your vast knowledge and tell us why US reports this way...

Jim

 

[eolesen]

US's SHARES B CRS is just a step or two removed from the disaster taking place at UA right now with SHARES A, so no, I wouldn't bank on a whole lot of the information you might find in other systems being reported.

And no, I wouldn't bet on the data for payload limitations due to trim to show up in any of the legacy CRSs.

At most airlines, RM simply zero's out availability when the loadhouse calls them. I've never seen where a cause codes was entered in as to why availability was zeroed out. Other systems have the ability to trend & report as to why.

 

[BoeingBoy]

At most airlines, RM simply zero's out availability when the loadhouse calls them.

Except it's my understanding that most/all of the US contract carriers don't have a "loadhouse" - the pilots do the weight and balance so blocking seats is often a last minute decision.

Jim

 

[Bertha]

No. NO WAY am I working for US Scareways. Personally I think all this is just so much talk, but the voices are getting louder and it's starting to rattle me a little.

For those of you on the fence, here are some highlights of what we could expect if a merger did take place:

* Getting stapled to the bottom of seniority lists
* Lower pay, and work rules that would have us doing far more for less
* Years and years of integration battles

Frankly I can't see why ANYONE who works for AA would support this.

I am a US Airways f/a and I am here to tell you that the LAST THING you want is Doug Parker in your life! Do all you can to stop any merger with him. He is cut from the same cloth as Frank Lorenzo and I should know because I was an Eastern Airlines f/a. I didn't mean to interfere in your conversation but I felt compelled to give you a heads up from one of the f/as who last week told Parker Hell No! Good luck, stay strong and keep the faith.

 

[etops1]

I am a US Airways f/a and I am here to tell you that the LAST THING you want is Doug Parker in your life! Do all you can to stop any merger with him. He is cut from the same cloth as Frank Lorenzo and I should know because I was an Eastern Airlines f/a. I didn't mean to interfere in your conversation but I felt compelled to give you a heads up from one of the f/as who last week told Parker Hell No! Good luck, stay strong and keep the faith.

Really Bertha ? I would argue that Doug Parker is the reason you have a job today at USAirways . Because of Doug Parker USAirways is in the position to Purhcase one of the largest airline in the world . Yep , little old USAir buying the mighty AA . If it were the other way around and AA was in the drivers seat YOU could very well have your Job put in jeapordy . Doug Parker may be a lot of things but a bad business man is not one of them.

 

[Mrs. McFly]

Well ,well .. Someone is scared to be Stapled to the bottom huh ? Go talk to your TWA friends and see how they feel about that . Seriously though, if a merger or Buy Out were to happen , We at US would not staple anyone to the bottom at least on the flight attendant side we won't .

You got that right! You'll just fight the new group of flight attendants and never fully integrate. East vs West vs AA? Sounds like a blast.

 

[etops1]

You got that right! You'll just fight the new group of flight attendants and never fully integrate. East vs West vs AA? Sounds like a blast.

There is no seniority dispute between the FA group at US . The fighting is amongst the pilot group . Get your facts straight.

 

[Mrs. McFly]

There is seniority dispute between the FA group at US . The fighting is amongst the pilot group . Get your facts straight.

So what you are saying is that there would be an even bigger seniority dispute amongst flight attendants and more infighting with pilot groups if US and AA were to combine. What a joke!

 

[etops1]

So what you are saying is that there would be an even bigger seniority dispute amongst flight attendants and more infighting with pilot groups if US and AA were to combine. What a joke!

Sorry , I made a mistake when posting . There is no seniority dispute amongst the FA group at US.

 

[whizbang]

So what you are saying is that there would be an even bigger seniority dispute amongst flight attendants and more infighting with pilot groups if US and AA were to combine. What a joke!

We merge using date of hire which is more than I can say for you. There is no dispute with the west We are just waiting to get a joint contract that works for all. No stapling here unlike what your used to.

 

[etops1]

We merge using date of hire which is more than I can say for you. There is no dispute with the west We are just waiting to get a joint contract that works for all. No stapling here unlike what your used to.

Thank you .

 

[CactUS4Ever]

We merge using date of hire which is more than I can say for you. There is no dispute with the west We are just waiting to get a joint contract that works for all. No stapling here unlike what your used to.

TWA

 

[AAviator]

5 out of 7 creditors voted no on US/DL. It was uphill the whole way on that offer

Your point?

My point is: Delta is much better off without you.

I believe the same holds true for AA.

 

[AAviator]

I have said it numerous times on here, that the NW deal was on the board when Parker made his run for DL.

So?

The groom got a better looking bride, who can cook, has a good job and brings home much more than LCC.

The point is, that there are better options for AA than LCC. A 1113c cramdown is still better than AA+LCC. Absent a deal with AA, LCC is in dire straits.

Oh yea, This is for Mr.Fluff and no substance.. How are you going to get the gift card to WT?

 

[etops1]

Your point?

My point is: Delta is much better off without you.

I believe the same holds true for AA.

You believe the same . Doesn't mean everybody else believes the same . And what you believe and what may happen is totally two different things . But hey , you may be right once all is said and done . If not , I certainly look forward to working a trip with you and go down for some beers lol !