US/AA merger settlement imminent!

[WorldTraveler]

Wt u might want to recheck ur green vs red posts alone on this page ur showing -12 total when votes are added up but anyway back to the in house fighting! Wt I have yet to see u post positive bout the merger. Youve been pro dl about everything and reading ur posts u give dl excellent credit yet w the merger of aa us u shoot it down. I personally was not for the merger the only thing I care bout is a paycheck every 2 weeks. With costs w the new planes comin into the fleets at both us n aa their costs will go down dp is a champ at keepin costs low and I for one would not be shocked if he gives the new aa employees contracts below ual and wn and slightly above dl n current aa

I have never thought that the post voting system had anything to do with any real sense of credibility regarding the ability to focus on the discussion.

It is simply a means that some people use to try and believe they can get even for someone else being right.

If that makes them feel better, they are welcome to play with the system if they want.

I haven't shot down the AA/US merger but I have consistently raised major strategic issues which other people on this forum have swept away as being insignificant.

Anyone that thinks that having a carrier with a cost structure almost 10% lower than AA's mainline costs add dozens of flights at an airport 30 minutes from AA's largest hub is nothing doesn't understand the industry.

Taking dozens of slots in key AA/US markets and giving them to competitors has just as much of a chance of dramatically impacting AA/US but no one besides me wants to say it.

The ability for competitors to fly to virtually all points in Latin America within a few years from anywhere in the US is going to significantly affect AA but no one is willing to acknowledge that.

Providing AA/US with the largest competitor to LHR since AA signed the AA/BA JV will of course have no effect.

And then you have the usual operational, labor, and merger related risks which are involved in
any merger - airline or not.

Tell me what factors existed in any of the other big 3 mergers and then we can talk about why things are different with the AA/US merger compared to others.

Doesn't change that my track record for accurately speaking to the real issues in the industry is unmatched in accuracy.

I do find kinship with those who recognize that CLT will not be a gateway to China - unless Parker intends to walk away from LAX, DFW, and ORD and not even bother to develop PHL, gateways that all make a whole lot more sense than CLT.

In the meantime, if you or others feel a need to take out your frustration on the red/green buttons on this post, please do so.

 

[Kev3188]

Wt u might want to recheck ur green vs red posts alone on this page ur showing -12 total when votes are added up...

Probably still rooting through years-old threads and boosting those posts up..

 

[WorldTraveler]

but wait, I was busted... how come my posts started receiving hundreds of positive votes?

time to start checking IP addresses?

Then you might find out that real and not masked IP addresses from all over the world couldn't possibly be voting up posts from the same user at the same time and in fact those positive votes - which some here seem dead set to try and erase - really do reflect the fact that I add value to the site.

And maybe time to recognize that this childish game accomplishes nothing other than provides a momentary reprieve from the reality of what actually is going in the industry and to which I very accurately speak?

 

[Kev3188]

That was someone else's term, not mine. I'd use exposed.

Oh, I'm sure you have actual people helping you out, and if that eases your insecurities, that's great. But to claim it as genuine peer recognition is disingenuous at best. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

Perhaps we should suggest a 5 page form on the post voting system that determines the intent of a person's vote before it can be registered?

still doesn't change that there are a whole of people who don't want to hear the honest truth about the industry which I seem to be able to speak to.... and which my track record says I have correctly addressed.

I'll be happy to conduct online classes (at no charge) for those who would like to understand some of the key factors that I have used to accurately speak to issues in the airline industry.

The post voting system won't be necessary if we all understand what is going on and can figure it all out by ourselves, right?

 

[eolesen]

CLT-China? Ain't gonna happen, regardless if there's a Boeing or Airbus plant on the east coast. China's not a supplier of any magnitude, and have actually been building A320s in Tianjin for the past five years or so.

WT making any sort of claim about post-count integrity is like the Chinese claiming to respect copyright and intellectual property rights...

Sure, post voting is a silly system, but apparently WT didn't like having huge negative numbers, and has habitually gone and up-voted his own posts via his fake accounts.


For the benefit of all the new members and those from the US Airways forum...

They did a forum upgrade 18 months ago, and accidentally changed the settings on who was voting up posts, and also allowed users to vote-up their own posts.

This is what we saw on pretty much every post that WT had issued:

Unfortunately, it exposed WT's fake account (which he probably is still using?) but I'm sure it has siblings now.

Using one of the web-data-scraping applications I'd built for other purposes years ago, I started to watch WT's score "evolve" on an hourly basis over a couple days.

Like clockwork, when it was morning Brasil time, WT's score would magically jump up by about 10-20 points, and then trickle back downward during the day as others actually read the forums on US daylight time... This was a repeatable event, far too predictable to be described as normal or random.

I won't bother running the software again, since the forum owners don't seem to care about things like that as long as the page views go up.

I think the reality is that as more and more people put him on ignore lists, his score is going up because they're no longer voting him down, so his fake voting works.

But hey, you don't have to put him on an ignore list to go smoke-free... it's possible to ignore what's said, and still click on the little red arrow...

 

[WorldTraveler]

you can bring it up all you want, but Spectator existed because Veritas voted down my posts by the thousands.

Plain and simple.

and your continued preoccupation with the post voting system is a mere distraction about how many things you have spoken about only be shown to be wrong.

I would far rather that you focus on speaking accurately about the industry and the topics you address rather than worrying about the post voting system as if it has or ever will measure the accuracy of what is said on here.

We can agree that China-CLT isn't going to happen


You and others have repeatedly said that they would put more on ignore only to come back again.

PS.

in case you haven't figured it out, your attempts to discredit me including via the post voting system only embolden me to continue to highlight the real issues.

For yet one more reason, the solution to the problem is to honestly speak to the issues that are being discussed or admit that you aren't capable of doing so and sit on the sideline rather than engage in some childish campaign about the post voting system.

You and everyone else have been given the opportunity to participate in the conversation on the basis of the topics that are being discussed. Sadly, you continually drag the conversation into attempts to discredit me because you clearly cannot discuss the true issues of the industry. If you could, I doubt we would be seeing near as much of the worry about the post voting system as we do.

Why do I have a feeling this thread will never be locked?

 

[robbedagain]

I think the new aa cld do may be phx lax china but the aircraft change at lax I wld think that phl to asia would also work may be w either 777 or 787

 

[WorldTraveler]

PHX to China with an aircraft change at LAX is not anything different from what they have today.

I still believe that PHL to Asia is the most logical place for AA to expand.

Thank you robbed for demonstrating the ability to focus on the topic at hand. A few of your forum peers could learn how to focus on the discussion at hand as you have repeatedly demonstrated the ability to do.

Congrats.

 

[Kev3188]

you can bring it up all you want, but Spectator existed because Veritas voted down my posts by the thousands.

Plain and simple.

and your continued preoccupation with the post voting system is a mere distraction about how many things you have spoken about only be shown to be wrong.

Says the man that puts forth a herculean effort to manipulate it.

Hi-larious.

 

[WorldTraveler]

now that is rich coming from someone who voted down hundreds of posts himself.

Glad you got a good laugh.

How about a grip now?

 

[robbedagain]

Would phx to south america work as well as our clt to s america

 

[WorldTraveler]

robbed,
I don't think anyone could rule anything out, esp. given AA's strength in S. America, but I don't see CLT to much beyond central America working.

AA has already built DFW-Latin America and there is more opportunity there. They are throwing their hat into the LAX-GRU market which hasn't ever supported the level of service AA is adding but admittedly no carrier as strong as AA is in Latin America has flown the route.
Anything that is added from PHX will compete with LAX for necessary flow traffic and LAX is a much, much larger market which should be developed to its max before PHX.

 

[robbedagain]

How about phl ord and jfk to s america? I do believe clt to brazil does extremely well load factors etc

 

[FWAAA]

How about phl ord and jfk to s america? I do believe clt to brazil does extremely well load factors etc

AA already has several flights from JFK to South America.    PHL?   Not a lot of O&D there.    ORD to South America?   UA and AA have tried some, but Chicago is not the center of the universe when it comes to South American O&D.   Miami is.    
 
Charlotte?   Some US employees have reported that quite a few of the passengers from GIG and GRU disembark at CLT and then connect to MCO.  If that's true, then new AA should probably just fly them to MIA and then connect them to MCO.    That would shave several hundred miles and a few hours off their journey.   
 
The largest O&D markets to/from Brazil are, in order, Miami, NYC and then MCO.    LAX and LAS are also pretty big.   

AA is pretty big in Brazil, Argentina and Chile, along with a presence in just about every other country in South America and most countries (if not all of them) in Central America.   
 
I realize that the CLT hub is big and amazing, but amazing hubs don't always support long-haul international flights to all .    DL's hub at ATL is substantially larger than CLT yet DL has tried and cancelled nonstop China flights from ATL.