TWU Sick Leave

[boston]

Can any TWU here tell me how your sick leave works? As a F/A we can earn up to 1,000 hrs, then need too use it or lose it so to speak, how does yours work. My husband is adamant for some reason not to call in sick, even when he is very ill, and the only stopping him now is surgery. He may have  torn foot fascia and want s keep working in pain even though the MD said his foot can be deform soon, and yes he will be one of the old guys limping around even though he has sick time an medical care. What ever ,I just want to know what your cap is? 
 
thanks

 

[Deleted member 14439]

1200 hours cap at 40 hours per year. 50% pay for first 8 hours per occurance.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

1200 hours cap at 40 hours per year. 50% pay for first 8 hours per occurance.

AMTs and Plant Maint. are the only work groups who get docked half a day's pay when they call in sick.  Every other work group represented by the TWU or anyone else gets a full day's pay.  TWU refuses to get us 100% sick pay because we demanded separate negotiations from fleet and stores.  Anyone wonder why AMTs sign AMFA cards?

 

[MetalMover]

AMTs and Plant Maint. are the only work groups who get docked half a day's pay when they call in sick.  Every other work group represented by the TWU or anyone else gets a full day's pay.  TWU refuses to get us 100% sick pay because we demanded separate negotiations from fleet and stores.  Anyone wonder why AMTs sign AMFA cards?

And the TWU leadership who negotiated this were standing on their laurels because we went from the first TWO days at 50% to only ONE..
How nice!

 

[Overspeed]

This sounds like a F/A asking the question about F/A sick policy.

 

[Flying low]

This sounds like a F/A asking the question about F/A sick policy.

I do believe the OP asked "Can any TWU here tell me how your sick leave works?" The key words are any TWU.

 

[MetalMover]

I do believe the OP asked "Can any TWU here tell me how your sick leave works?" The key words are any TWU.

And I do believe OldGuy answered the question

 

[boston]

Thanks DVLHOG12.

 

[Flying low]

And I do believe OldGuy answered the question

Yep, overspeed was just trying to distort the facts.

 

[Overspeed]

Yep, overspeed was just trying to distort the facts.

 
No, the statement that followed was "as a F/A". 

 

[Overspeed]

AMTs and Plant Maint. are the only work groups who get docked half a day's pay when they call in sick.  Every other work group represented by the TWU or anyone else gets a full day's pay.  TWU refuses to get us 100% sick pay because we demanded separate negotiations from fleet and stores.  Anyone wonder why AMTs sign AMFA cards?

 
That's wrong. The 2010 TA had full pay SK pay in it. We voted no so the committee would get us more or take us on strike and then get us more.

 

[Flying low]

 
No, the statement that followed was "as a F/A". 

Actually the OP was stating that as a F/A, she was asking about other TWU groups.
1st sentence: Can any TWU here tell me how your sick leave works?
2nd sentence: As a F/A we can earn up to 1,000 hrs, then need too use it or lose it so to speak, how does yours work.
Last part: is trying to compare her plan to other TWU work groups, as her husband doesn't want to use sick time to get his foot fixed.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

The 2010 TA offered full SK pay but it also offered a one time lump sum $3000 in lieu of a raise for us overhaul mechanics.  For this we were expected to give up our retiree medical.  Sorry but retiree medical was worth much more than $3000 to me.  The line guys were going to get $2.55 line pay which is a pretty good start but they didn't think it was worth trading their retiree medical for either.  Say what you want but you cannot defend the 2010 TA.  It was total crap.  The TWU only negotiates cost neutral contracts now.  That means we give up something of value to get something of lesser value.  I can tell you the biggest reason I wanted separate negotiations is to get rid of lump sum payments that fleet seemed to like.  I won't go into all the reasons lump sum payments are not good.  Please stop trying to sell the piece of crap from 2010 that failed miserably.  It had nothing but more give backs.  And also please don't ever try to say if we had voted yes AA would not have filed BK.  Remember the TWU gave away the farm in 2003, they did that so we could save (Supposedly) the retirement medical and the pension.  The 2010 TA would have done away with the retiree medical.  TWU does not represent me when they "Negotiate" deals like this.  Isn't your believability is already questioned enough?

 

[Thomas Paine]

Yep cost neutral with ZERO credit for productivity gains, King Don had us give away millions in productivity gains from 2003 to 2012 through PLI, JLT, pulse Lines and more and on top of that it helped the company eliminate hundreds if not thousands more jobs.

 

[Overspeed]

The 2010 TA offered full SK pay but it also offered a one time lump sum $3000 in lieu of a raise for us overhaul mechanics.  For this we were expected to give up our retiree medical.  Sorry but retiree medical was worth much more than $3000 to me.  The line guys were going to get $2.55 line pay which is a pretty good start but they didn't think it was worth trading their retiree medical for either.  Say what you want but you cannot defend the 2010 TA.  It was total crap.  The TWU only negotiates cost neutral contracts now.  That means we give up something of value to get something of lesser value.  I can tell you the biggest reason I wanted separate negotiations is to get rid of lump sum payments that fleet seemed to like.  I won't go into all the reasons lump sum payments are not good.  Please stop trying to sell the piece of crap from 2010 that failed miserably.  It had nothing but more give backs.  And also please don't ever try to say if we had voted yes AA would not have filed BK.  Remember the TWU gave away the farm in 2003, they did that so we could save (Supposedly) the retirement medical and the pension.  The 2010 TA would have done away with the retiree medical.  TWU does not represent me when they "Negotiate" deals like this.  Isn't your believability is already questioned enough?

 
And the BK result was so much better?
 
No one lost retiree medical this was a lie spread by many misinformed officers in their cheesy videos. Those 50 and over would have continued with their existing funding option, those under 50 would have paid for retiree medical with a new higher cap SK bank, and those from 45 up to 50 would have had a more SK time added based on a formula. Now you have nothing under the new and improved BK CBA.
 
So we voted down the cost neutral CBA for a cost reduction CBA forced on us in BK. Voting no didn't really improve things did it?
 
Was AA going to file BK if we settled in 2010? BK, unless the economy improved significantly, was probably inevitable after most of our peers filed BK. 
 
Hey maybe we should have rolled the dice in BK court back in 2003 and got that killer deal UA got right?