teamsters file at us air

[AMFAinMIAMI]

We had a choice today in Tulsa, IBT and Amfa had separate corners, 6 at one and 4 at the other.

In Solidarity,
CIO

CIO

So tell us where did you go to get your free meal?

the AMFA corner or the IBT?

Did you tell them you were there only for the free meal and that you're a Die hard TWU supporter?

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

SWAMT,

Since you are the organizer at Amfa, what companies are you currently organizing outside of raiding others? Delle made a fortune doing this thru-out the years and has a nice retirement on top of it!!!

Collecting higher pay at the cost of the Majority is this your Motto? Keep preaching, your old contract will still be in negotiations when the TWU negotiated wages at AA will have a nice raise. Unless of course the likes of the Bobs, Kens and Daves keeps pursuing their minority agendas.

In Solidarity,
CIO

CIO

Why don't you tell us all here just how much the IAm leadership will get when they retire OH and by the way tell us what they make per yr in Salary?

O.V.Dell-femene with his total money will not even come close to amount that the industrial union leadership
gets or will get when they walk away.

Why don't you post the amount the Tulsa Pres of local 514 gets as well.

 

[xUT]

Bob,

If your so frustrated with the international, why do you keep running for office when you know your not going to change it.

Keep trying in a fleeting hope that these ass-clowns pay attention.
Problem is with most of you guys, you just give up, drink the koolaide, and b-i-t-c-h about how you have been screwed.
At least Bob has balls to post in his own name and keep trying to change the TWU from within.
JMHO,
B) xUT

 

[xUT]

CIO

Why don't you tell us all here just how much the IAm leadership will get when they retire OH and by the way tell us what they make per yr in Salary?

O.V.Dell-femene with his total money will not even come close to amount that the industrial union leadership
gets or will get when they walk away.

Why don't you post the amount the Tulsa Pres of local 514 gets as well.

Don't feed the troll.
Ask CIO if the onion LM-2 includes perks and salary from the company.
If I were a betting man...
I bet some twu mucky mucks get a piece of that AA executive bk proof retirement fund.
JMHO,

 

[Realityck]

Well there is the Convention in September right? Isnt that what you are always preaching? "If you dont like what the the people running the TWU are doing to your profession get involved " right? When people get involved if they dont switch and all of a sudden support concession after concession in hopes of landing a six figure appointed position you say that if they dont like the organization they should quit. Well the fact is my peers put me here , despite your efforts they have elected me five times.

I do not believe that the guys running the ATD act in our best interests. I believe they get AA whatever AA wants. 35% cap on outsourced maintenance spend? Well thats there simply because AA figured with their super low costs even on the high dollar work they would never need to outsource more than that. I believe that the pension that the AA workers who are in the International get from AA is based upon what the Union pays them, that Bobby Gless or Don Videtich at 55 will get a bigger pension from AA than Al Blackman gets after 70 years with the company. That the freeze became a top priority because if they had dumped it in the PBGC that they would have taken a big cut, and most of us would have been no worse off than we are with it frozen. I think its wrong that Al Blackman would be booted off the plane to make room for Bobby or Don to fly away on Vacation. I think its wrong that the International gets to hand pick people and have the company pay their salaries while on Union business instead of letting the members pick them. Yes I'm negative but wrongs usually dont produce positive results and I believe a lot more people here feel like I do than like you do.

You can believe whatever you want or make it up as you go along (as you usually do). However, your comment: " I believe that the pension that the AA workers who are in the International get from AA is based upon what the Union pays them, that Bobby Gless or Don Videtich at 55 will get a bigger pension from AA than Al Blackman gets after 70 years with the company" is an outright lie.

For your information, here is the 2003 M&R contract language that applies to every Int’l Officer regarding his accrued AA Pension.


ARTICLE 40 – RETIREMENT BENEFIT.

Paragraph (B) (4) After December 31, 1976, credited service will not include periods of unpaid hours in excess of one hundred eighty (180) hours in a calendar year. A leave of absence for Union Business for which the employee member has been paid by the Union will be counted as credited service for the Plan.

Paragraph (e) The amendments covered in Article 40 (e) will be applicable only for those members classified as “Aviation Maintenance Technician and Related Employees”, who are on active payroll or on an approved leave of absence with recall rights as of 03/01/01 and whose benefits commence on or after the first day of the month following 03/01/01.

Par (1) Final Average Compensation

The compensation used for calculating a member’s retirement benefit will
be the average of the highest forty eight (48) consecutive months of pay
out of the one hundred and twenty (120) consecutive months of pay
preceding the date of retirement. The definition of the compensation used
to determine the forty eight (48) and one hundred and twenty (120) month
periods is unchanged. Various formulas exist for benefits, e.g., 1.667 X
Final Average Earnings X Years of credited service, which are also
unchanged.


NOTE: Contrary to your claim Bob, the individual’s compensation used to determine his pension benefit is based solely on what he would be earning as an active employee. There has never been a provision for substituting an International Officer’s TWU salary when calculating his AA Pension Benefit. If you can document what you claim, share it with us. Otherwise, keep your fantasies to yourself.

 

[iluvaa]

Don't know who's right on this but it doesn't say that either,it's says The compensation used for calculating a member’s retirement benefit will
be the average of the highest forty eight (48) consecutive months of pay
out of the one hundred and twenty (120) consecutive months of pay.

 

[TWU informer]

CIO

So tell us where did you go to get your free meal?

the AMFA corner or the IBT?

Did you tell them you were there only for the free meal and that you're a Die hard TWU supporter?

CIO wants to stick with the TWU and get his free meal from Obama and Food Stamps. This way he gets the free meal everyday not just once a week. Two more times to the TWU negotiating table and we will all qualify.

 

[comatose]

CIO wants to stick with the TWU and get his free meal from Obama and Food Stamps. This way he gets the free meal everyday not just once a week. Two more times to the TWU negotiating table and we will all qualify.

CIO wants to stick with the TWU and get his free meal from Obama and Food Stamps. This way he gets the free meal everyday not just once a week. Two more times to the TWU negotiating table and we will all qualify.

No need for the negotiating table, the TWU is giving bargaining chips away to the company at a pace where we will qualify before this force feed piece of trash ends.

 

[swamt]

SWAMT,

Since you are the organizer at Amfa, what companies are you currently organizing outside of raiding others? Delle made a fortune doing this thru-out the years and has a nice retirement on top of it!!!

Collecting higher pay at the cost of the Majority is this your Motto? Keep preaching, your old contract will still be in negotiations when the TWU negotiated wages at AA will have a nice raise. Unless of course the likes of the Bobs, Kens and Daves keeps pursuing their minority agendas.

In Solidarity,
CIO

There you go again. Lies and uninformed as usual.
Never have I ever claimed to be an AMFA organizer and NO, I am not.
Delle has not made a fortune doing this thru-out the years. Delle has never even come close to what Hoffa and Little have made (stolen) over the years from their members. Delles retirement is only a fraction of what the other two mentioned earlier will steal and deprive their membership from.
The rest of your post is complete mumbo-jumbo and makes no sense what-so-ever, again as usual.
As previously stated, "we don't care how long it takes". We already make a good living, we have no reason to be in a hurry. I hope AA does get a raise before our contract is finished. They need it and deserve it more than we do. Why wouldn't we want that for our brothers and sisters at AA?? You have some very deep and wrong intentions that can be seen in all your postings, sure hope you are not voted into to any positions once AMFA takes over and they will.

 

[swamt]

Does anyone know the time frame that the NMB has to verify and notify US and mechanics of an election vote? I kinda hope teamsters win at US. It will be much easier for AMFA to prevail at US, and we would all just love to see yet another beat down on the teamsters by AMFA. You just can't make this stuff up...

 

[700UW]

http://usaamerger.com/2013/05/10/the-truth-about-teamster-representation/

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

http://usaamerger.co...representation/

700UW

I see your love/aka/IAM is under the gun as they say, The all mighty IBT has placed a challenge at it's door. Maybe things are not as bright as you think with the IAM.
Now you will have to get on your high horse in an attempt to keep the IAM from being bounce out of the Industry. With the Mechanics that is.

So you see it's just not the mechanics at AA that are fed up with the industrial union way of doing things its a system wide problem. Something you and alot of others whom are not mechanics will never get. I would hate to see the IBT win there, I think the IAM on a whole is better.

We here at AA are split between AMFA and the IBT, we will see soon who gets in here.

So it looks as though you have your work cut out for you. With all your IAM supporting ways you must dig up all the dirt you can and tell the USAir guys just how bad the IBT is.

Before Jimmy H and the boys take the pension and what ever away.

Good Luck with That...

 

[Vortilon]

Industrial labor unions are failing AMTs across the industry. AMFA is the only logical alternative.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Does anyone know the time frame that the NMB has to verify and notify US and mechanics of an election vote? I kinda hope teamsters win at US. It will be much easier for AMFA to prevail at US, and we would all just love to see yet another beat down on the teamsters by AMFA. You just can't make this stuff up...

SWAMT

To answer your question if I am not mistaken it will take approx 3-4 months for them to.

1. validate the cards
2. insure all eligible voters are accounted for, all with recall rights.
3. signed cards were signed by employees, not forged
4. insure enough cards to show interest
5. send out ballots
6. send results after

Why after preaching all that about how bad the IBT would you want to have the IBT get into USAir this will only hurt the AMT's there.

Looking out for all AMT's isn't that what we the supporters of AMFA have been saying
all along? It will not help AA if the IBT gets in will only make it harder. ( My belief )

AMFA at AA in 2013

 

[AANOTOK]

Oh great, so we are gonna be inundated with this stuff until at least August....Ughhhhhh :wacko: