Support The Flight Attendants

[Decision 2004]

Since you are unwilling to put this union crap aside for a bit, I will advance on my own, to support the stews or whoever, without your blue-ink BS. May I take this time to state that once again Owen, you do truely suck!

[post="204309"][/post]​

Wow, everyone who speaks the TRUTH sucks in your mind.

We told you to beware of the AA/TWU term "Attrition"... we sucked.

We told the TWU is a company union...we sucked.

We told you the NMB is corrupt...we sucked.

We told you the TWU is worse than the IAM...we sucked.

We told you that you would hit the street without your license...we sucked.

We told you your Local would never have the desired impact you seek...we sucked.

We told you Jim Little would get a higher appointment for selling us out...we sucked.

OK Drippy, so we suck, where does that leave you and what about the TRUTH?

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

Drippy, writing e-mails is one thing, taking action is another. If the TWU International,especially the ATD, doesn't support the Flight Attendants when they walk out, then the TWU is definitely a union of SCABS! Bob Owens and others have repeatedly shown you the evidence that the TWU is crooked as a blue eyed snake, yet you still support the EVIL TWU! I'm ready for war Drippy! Are you? Or are you gonna go back into management, when all hell breaks loose?

 

[Dea Certe]

Folks,

Again, thanks for your support! Please get the word out to your co-workers on the floor. This isn't just about flight attendants or AFA. This is about all airline employees. Your future is at stake.

Dea

 

[Drippy Quill]

Drippy, writing e-mails is one thing, taking action is another. If the TWU International,especially the ATD, doesn't support the Flight Attendants when they walk out, then the TWU is definitely a union of SCABS! Bob Owens and others have repeatedly shown you the evidence that the TWU is crooked as a blue eyed snake, yet you still support the EVIL TWU! I'm ready for war Drippy! Are you? Or are you gonna go back into management, when all hell breaks loose?

[post="204314"][/post]​

Don't be scared, Drippy will be there w/ you.

 

[Bob Owens]

Folks,

Again, thanks for your support! Please get the word out to your co-workers on the floor. This isn't just about flight attendants or AFA. This is about all airline employees. Your future is at stake.

Dea

[post="204321"][/post]​

I agree. By the way what took you so long?

In early 2003 Jim Little, head of the TWU Air Transport Division was sending out all this doom and gloom propaganda in order to soften us up for the "shock and Awe" campain that came that March in which TWU members were forced to give more in concessions than any other union ever. One of the things he sent out was an article about how a judge might abrogate UALs contracts if they dont give the airline concessions.

My response to that was "When the first contract is voided we should all walk out".

I felt that if we allow a judge to abrogate our agreements that they were really not worth anything. Since most airline union contracts are comparable how could any one of them meet the standard of being "onerous". "Onerous" is the condition cited in the law that allows a judge to abrogate a contract.

Jim, who no doubt was more than willing to put us into a race to the bottom, a race he knew the TWU could win because the decision makers in this union are unaccountable to the members, was horrified at the thought of all the unions sticking together and fighting the companies. He demanded that I retract the statement. He felt that UALs fight was not our fight. I dissagreed because I knew that once UAL was successful in using the BK threat to get concessions that we would be next. Why wait and allow the airlines to pick us off one at a time?

Of course Jim did not agree. He knew that AA was in the best economic position and no doubt had already agreed to what the TWU would give back to the company to ensure that when all the dust settles AA will be in the best position to become the undisputed largest carrier in the world. As AA experienced good fortune and growth due to the collapse of competitors the TWU would get more and more members. The fact that those members make less money is more than offset by the volume of members.

The attention to dues income was clearly demonstrated in the concessions package that the TWU gave to the company. While the real cut was around 25% the TWU engineered the concessions so that the dues collected per member would only go down at the very most 17%.

The concessions package that the TWU gave to the company was deliberately designed to minimize the financial impact to the TWU International while maximizing the concessions from the members.

Now perhaps you can understand why we doubt the TWU International will come out in support of the AFA. The TWU International will not even support their own Locals who strike. If you dont believe me look at some newspaper articles from Dec of 2001 concerning the NYC Subway workers of Local 100. As Local 100 was threatening to strike Sonny Hall, the head of the TWU was saying that the INternational would not support the strike and would remove the officers of Local 100 if they did.

At a rally later on Sonny was resoundly Boo-ed by thousands of his own members. Sonny had lost all credibility within the New York labor movement. He no longer made personal appearances at labor gatherings such as the Labor Day Parade.

The fact is the TWU International is a company friendly organization. Sonny's retirement means nothing. His hand picked successors have continued to isolate Local 100 and will maintain their company friendly policies. The TWU International will not lend the AFA any real support because it will endanger the cozy relationship they have with employers.


In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

-Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)


In the struggle that we are in as workers we have to remember that many of these so called "labor leaders", especially those that are in a structure which leaves them unaccountable(like the TWU Intnl), with their six figure salaries, secure pensions and benifits etc, are more aligned with our enemies than they are with us. Only a few leaders have shown true Leadership so far, they are the leaders of the AFA, APFA, TWU 565 and AMFA Local 9. Notice that two are AFL-CIO affiliated and two are not.

 

[Bob Owens]

VIA FACSIMILE & E-MAIL

TO: All ATD Local Presidents, Officers, and Members

RE: Solidarity March and Candlelight Vigil - Washington D.C.

Dear Sisters & Brothers:

We need your support for our AFA-CWA Sisters and Brothers at United and USAir in their struggle to preserve their contracts and hard earned pension plans.

The Vigil will be held in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at Lafayette Park across from the White House.

Let's stand together and send a message that we will never stand idle and allow any Court, Bankruptcy Judge, or Government Agency to set aside union contracts.

I have assigned AAmech, International Representative, to coordinate our efforts, and he will be providing follow-up information. If you are able to attend, or your Local can provide travel assistance, please contact our ATD office as soon as possible.

Remember, this is not an individual issue unique to just United or USAir. It is the survival of all of our collective bargaining agreements.

United Invincible.

Fraternally,


James C. Little
Director Air Transport Division
Intl. Executive Vice President

JCL:cjw opeiu 153 afl-cio

C: IAC
P. Friend
G. Yingst
ATD Staff Assigned

Well isnt that sweet? Jim assigned AAmech to coordinate their efforts!
What did he have to say about the F/As a few days back? Oh yea
"There's no doubt they have more "BAWLS" than most of us, its the Brains they're lacking! "

 

[Drippy Quill]

The attention to dues income was clearly demonstrated in the concessions package that the TWU gave to the company. While the real cut was around 25% the TWU engineered the concessions so that the dues collected per member would only go down at the very most 17%.

Dues are considered by hourly wage paid, not benefits...but nice try Booby.

 

[Bob Owens]

Dues are considered by hourly wage paid, not benefits...but nice try Booby.

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Boy, you are dumb!
Thats the point!
The TWU gave away our benifits because by giving away benifits they would not see a corresponding decrease in dues! Get it?

I will try and make it a little clearer.

Benifits are like money in the bank. This has been a union position for over 50 years. Benifits cost the company money and increase the living standards of workers.

However our dues are not increased when the union negotiates increases in benifits because our dues are determined by our hourly rate.

The company demanded a 25% reduction in labor costs. The TWU International agreed to meet this demand. But instead of going for a straight 25% cut in hourly pay like the APA, which would decrease dues revenue by 25% the TWU goes after the benifits. By cutting our benifits the TWU was able to minimize the loss of dues revenue. So while our compensation was cut by 25%, our dues which is determined by hourly pay only, was only cut by 17% or less.

 

[NMB]

Wow, everyone who speaks the TRUTH sucks in your mind.


We told you the NMB is corrupt...we sucked.


Hey fat boy, I take offence to that! :down:

 

[Decision 2004]

Hey fat boy, I take offence to that! :down:

Well hell NMB, just grab another alias and make things more exciting.






Oh yeah....HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Drippy Quill]

Psssst...hey dummie...if I wanted to call you and Booby fat boys I'd say...."hey fatboys!"...but I'm not like that....HAHAHA!!!

 

[Hackman]

We wus down on tho' farm, when ya's wanted to call Dippy, or any twuer fer that matter..... ya say; SUEY! SUEY! SEUY! Pour a sloppin' bowl of sour mash whiskey (any brand will do) and watch the twu Punks, Drunks, and Cowards lap it up. After all, its a twu staple along with UBP time.

 

[NMB]

We wus down on tho' farm, when ya's wanted to call Dippy, or any twuer fer that matter..... ya say; SUEY! SUEY! SEUY! Pour a sloppin' bowl of sour mash whiskey (any brand will do) and watch the twu Punks, Drunks, and Cowards lap it up. After all, its a twu staple along with UBP time.

[post="227303"][/post]​

Hack-off, we haven't worked our way down to your culture yet. But the next bump n roll and we'll have a sip with ya. :mf_boff:

 

[Hackman]

Hack-off, we haven't worked our way down to your culture yet. But the next bump n roll and we'll have a sip with ya. :mf_boff:

[post="227307"][/post]​

Nutless..Mindless..Brainless, come on down, your twu sellout buddies need any help they can find, which isn't much. Not to be rude, (well ok) I'd rather have root canal then be in the same barroom, much less have any form of libation with the likes of your kind.

 

[Bob Owens]

Nutless..Mindless..Brainless, come on down, your twu sellout buddies need any help they can find, which isn't much. Not to be rude, (well ok) I'd rather have root canal then be in the same barroom, much less have any form of libation with the likes of your kind.

[post="227349"][/post]​

Dont worry, his 4/10/01 probably will not get him there. He might make it to NY though, a few months of living in someones basement for $1200/month might give him a new perspective!