Slide deployment in CLT
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Usually you get everything right but in this case you are simply wrong. The company removed all brooms from the ramp and sold them in a yard sale months ago.
So once again, its all the company's fault.
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If you were B on the AB, do you mean the 2L door?
BoeingBoy
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Is this really true or just your normal posting style? I'd be surprised if the rampers don't have access to something with a long handle. My experience, granted 4+ and longer ago, was that the rampers would normally say something about waiting for someone to get something to push the handle with. Back in the PI days, most stations had a an 6' 1x1 or 1x2 just for that purpose.
Jim
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In the PI days the ramp needed something to get the weight and balance paperwork to the cockpit.
Sounds to me like a case of over exuberance trying to keep the airplane moving if that is what happened. Many of us get wrapped up in doing thing s that we should let others do just to be on time. Just like making all those calls to catering, and cleaning, ops for things that should have already been done. I think the best way to handle these things is to let the flight attendants tell the agents about all these issues if they can get in touch with an agent.......or better yet if there is no way to get in touch with an agent tell the agent about everything that needs to be done when they come down to close the door then if the airplanes are late they will find a way to make everybody else do their jobs or give the flight attendants a phone that they can use to call for everything that they need.
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Bob
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Two things. Once the A/C is moving NO Pilot is going to come out of the cockpit to "check a door". If it is a safety issue its the FAs JOB is to respond to the Pilots concern. Secondly, if that slide deployed with the door mostly closed, the F/O would not have lived through it to be sent for drug testing. The door does NOT have Pneumatic Assist, so the door will not fly into fully opened position. The slide would have opened inside the cabin and once it starts, there's no stopping.
So please really!
The other day working the 1L on the 737, the gate agent was assisting in opening the door. The girt bar slid off and got hooked up into the doorframe. I started to scream STOP, then another "arm" starting pulling to get the door opened. That "other" arm belonged to the kid that does the HHDs (who has NO business touching ANY A/C door). Thankfully, I was able to get them to stop because if that slide blew, I would not be here telling this story and calling BS on this post.
YOUR WRONG! the pilot did come out of the cockpit to check the handle and he rotated the handle and the slide deployed, no the door did not swing open like the AB but the slide did fall out the door and on the ramp and the door did not swing open against the AC so the slide just fell out on the ramp they lifted the slid put it on a bag cart and towed the ac back to the gate.
965vj,
The jetway is not considered an extension of the jetway and we are pretty much always at min. staffing. Some airlines have a jetway phone with an extension that can be placed in the aircraft which is what we should have so the f/a's could relay their needs directly to the proper person . If there is no way for the f/a's to get in touch with the gate, catering, cleaners, etc withoug interrupting the flight deck preflight procedures then something is wrong. We can write letters, call supervisors, etc, etc, but trust me the best way to get what you need is to wait until the gate agent comes down to close the door and then say we haven't been catered, the lavs are full, the airplane is fillthy,etc,etc oh and by the way I have no way to communicate directly with those people that I need to. That , sad to say is how we get things accomplished here.
Regards,
Bob
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I am the first to say that the jetbridge phone that has a cord long enough to put it on the a/c during boarding is a godsend. As 767One pointed out, I can communicate directly with whomever I need to in order to get catered/cleaned/etc. The primary benefit though is to let the agent know when the bins are getting full and they need to get someone down on the jetbridge to start checking bags. We have saved many an on-time departure by getting those bags checked as soon as the bins are full instead of waiting until the agent came down with the final paperwork.
However, we did get an ok from the FAA for one f/a to step off the plane (just to the immediate jetbridge area) to deal with safety issues--such as call up to the gate when it is a station without the extendable phones. And, baggage issues were determined to be a safety issue because the FARs are specific about their stowage. Unfortunately, filthy lavs are not considered a safety issue!!!!
However, we did get an ok from the FAA for one f/a to step off the plane (just to the immediate jetbridge area) to deal with safety issues--such as call up to the gate when it is a station without the extendable phones. And, baggage issues were determined to be a safety issue because the FARs are specific about their stowage. Unfortunately, filthy lavs are not considered a safety issue!!!!
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If that's supposed to be "they" or "he" (captain) didn't (not critizing, I make my share of typos) you're right. But that's what the captain should have suggested to the ground crew instead of just sending the f/o back to "fix" it.
Technically it's not an extension - it IS the jetway. I assume you meant that the jetway isn't considered an extension of the aircraft at US.
Jim
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