Self Help

[Borescope]

Once the safety level drops, God forbid, we might see some interest.

[post="191467"][/post]​

Why would that happen? They aren't going to hire some kid off the street to work on the planes, or a cessna pilot to fill in for sick calls. The only way safety levels would drop is deliberately by current employee and although they may be PO'd there still professional.

 

[Dea Certe]

Borescope,

I absolutely believe every one with anything to do with safety on US Airways property will continue to do the outstanding job we've always done. I couldn't go to work if I thought otherwise. Wouldn't go to work.

However, over time, as the pay decreases and there's less incentive for motivated people to enter the aviation field, standards will slide. It's possible that young puppies with lots of enthusiasm but less skill and natural talent will make the cut.

Safety is a team effort. I want everyone on all the teams to be top-notch.

Dea

 

[Phoenix]

Clue:


If you do, I believe it would be better for you to change you User Name to "Clueless".
...

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

[post="191470"][/post]​

Mr. Decorum,

How come you never called me?

Respectfully,

Phoenix

p.s. If you get paid 21% less then it is reasonable to produce 21% less. Happy trails...

 

[NeedForSpeedNFS]

And so did your leaders with the 18.5% paycut, loss of your pension twice. So don't gloat, because pilots in glass cockpits should not throw stones.

And your information about the largest cuts is wrong. A mechanic who got knocked back down to utility in the 2002 restructing took a $21,000 a year paycut.

Keep trying!

[post="191473"][/post]​

YOU keep trying!!!!..... I...have been RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!!! Take your "ruling", and put it where the sun don't shine, brother!!!!!! 700???? Can you hear me now????

 

[USA320Pilot]

Clue:

Clue asked: "Do you honestly believe that a judge is going to abrogate a labor contract and then not permit a strike?"

USA320pilot: Yesiree.

Judge Gives US Airways Authority to Cut Union Pay

Today the New York Times reported, By seeking cuts from the bankruptcy court, the airlines have upset the traditional balance between labor and management, said Gary N. Chaison, professor of industrial relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.

"Essentially, United and US Airways are telling their unions, 'You really don't count in this anymore,' " Professor Chaison said.

With the court's involvement, "unions are not even a secondary player," he said. "They are a footnote."

In the case of US Airways, Judge Stephen L. Mitchell ruled yesterday that the airline could impose pay cuts of 21 percent over the next four months, through Feb. 15. US Airways had sought cuts of 23 percent for six months.

See Story

USA320Pilot comments: The judge's primary concern is the creditors and Mitchell will do what is necessary to save the business enterprise. Labor is most likely toast and I believe the "self help" option will be striken from the next order, if necessary.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[NeedForSpeedNFS]

Clue:

Clue asked: "Do you honestly believe that a judge is going to abrogate a labor contract and then not permit a strike?"

USA320pilot: Yesiree.

Judge Gives US Airways Authority to Cut Union Pay

Today the New York Times reported, By seeking cuts from the bankruptcy court, the airlines have upset the traditional balance between labor and management, said Gary N. Chaison, professor of industrial relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.

"Essentially, United and US Airways are telling their unions, 'You really don't count in this anymore,' " Professor Chaison said.

With the court's involvement, "unions are not even a secondary player," he said. "They are a footnote."

In the case of US Airways, Judge Stephen L. Mitchell ruled yesterday that the airline could impose pay cuts of 21 percent over the next four months, through Feb. 15. US Airways had sought cuts of 23 percent for six months.

See Story

USA320Pilot comments: The judge's primary concern is the creditors and Mitchell will do what is necessary to save the business enterprise. Labor is most likely toast and I believe the "self help" option will be striken from the next order, if necessary.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

[post="191530"][/post]​

320, Don't forget....He also ruled that they can OUTSOURCE some maintenance!!!!! Damn!!!!! what a surprise!!! 700..........Can you hear me now?? GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!

 

[eolesen]

Sorry, but just because the Judge isn't permitting outsourcing beyond the Airbus heavies right now doesn't mean the company can't go back and get an emergency order to engage in outsourcing two weeks from now. But they can only go back and ask if the IAM gives them a reason to.

 

[jimntx]

I should think those who can will be leaving shortly for better prospects or retirement. Some will wait for Chapter 7, unemployment checks and possible job retraining through the government. If you're on strike, I don't believe those options are available.

[post="191467"][/post]​

When you go to file, all you have to say is, "I wasn't striking. It was those other guys. I was locked out. I wanted to go to work, but those other people prevented me from going." 😛

If they ask if you are a member of the striking union, you say yes, but [repeat above mantra]. It's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Clue:

Clue asked: "Do you honestly believe that a judge is going to abrogate a labor contract and then not permit a strike?"

USA320pilot: Yesiree.

Judge Gives US Airways Authority to Cut Union Pay

Today the New York Times reported, ...

USA320Pilot

[post="191530"][/post]​

And from another expert in the same article:

Even so, the cuts may still not be enough to help the deteriorating airline, which acknowledged its bookings were dropping in the wake of its financial crisis, said Robert W. Mann Jr., an industry consultant based in Port Washington, N.Y.

"I am afraid that in the final analysis, it won't matter if it is 21 percent, or 23 percent or 25 percent for that matter," Mr. Mann said.

Jim

 

[Finish or Ignore]

Clue:


Separately, the AFA, IAM, and CWA labor leader actions provided their members with the largest pay cut in the history of the company. It appears their action was as good as the RC4’s by helping to provide the rank-and-file with deeper cuts (in this area) than were necessary.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

[post="191470"][/post]​

You work very hard for all the deserved disrespect you get on this board. Does your captains hat have a large "L" on it?

 

[USA320Pilot]

Will US Airways survive?

I do not know, but one thing is for sure. It has a better chance of surviving long-term today than it did last week. For the fifth time the ATSB has helped US Airways and just gave the company a 90-day financing extension. Separately, the bankruptcy court imposed a very large pay cut and provided the carrier with other labor relief.

Next week the airline will get more positive news to help the Arlington-based company evolve into an LCC. ALPA TA ratification and renewed labor efforts to obtain consensual labor contracts that cut the company's cost and provide a more balanced approach to labor savings. It is anticipated the pay rate reduction can be reduced in exchange for work rule and benefit changes, which will further lower unit costs and permit aircraft to be flown more hours per day.

Then in the not-so-distant future, expect US Airways and its affiliate carriers to announce 90-seat RJ EMB-190 and CRJ-900 deliveries. These aircraft will be flown under the US Airways Express network and will provide more incremental revenue with no mainline capital diversion, which will both help the carrier transform and meet ATSB guidelines. There will also be more pilot J4J opportunities. Moreover, these jets will help with mainline aircraft asset reallocation and more point-to-point growth out of BOS & LGA. Point-to-point flying will be done with A320 family, B757, and transatlantic aircraft, with the B737s operating in and out of the two hubs.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[Dea Certe]

737's transatlantic? Ohhhhh, I hope not.

Dea

 

[delldude]

The judge will likely not permit self help.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

[post="191461"][/post]​

LOOK INTO THE rla DUDE.............

 

[TheLazarusman]

Just curious! 🙂

 

[delldude]

Next week the airline will get more positive news to help the Arlington-based company evolve into an LCC. ALPA TA ratification and renewed labor efforts to obtain consensual labor contracts that cut the company's cost and provide a more balanced approach to labor savings.

DUDE SAY...YOU STILL MAY GET IT IN YOUR SHORTS FROM THE GOOD 'OL BOYS IN PIT/PHL. :mf_boff: :mf_boff:

Sorry, but just because the Judge isn't permitting outsourcing beyond the Airbus heavies right now doesn't mean the company can't go back and get an emergency order to engage in outsourcing two weeks from now.

dude i suggest you go read the OFFICIAL IAM RELEASE .....what you infer was and is denied.....DUH...