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Abused the rule? How aout a F/A that scheduled themselves for an ETB trip over their OFF days - were they also abusing the rule?
This is going to basically eliminate that scenario. RSV's are going to be severely limited in legally picking up an ETB trip, and still be legal for their duty stretch. It is also going to be a sea change for commuting RSV's - there will be more groups of OFF and INV days with less days in each group.
Also, any flexibility we might have had with regard to moving and/or swapping of OFF/INV days will be similarly curtailed. The system will certainly survive the implementation of the rule, and I'm sure the union and the company will try to make it as seamless as possible, but as one who has worked in both pilot and f/a scheduling, it is certainly going to have an effect on schedule flexibility and the ETB.
Yeah, do you know who this is really truly gonna hurt? The blockholder trying to drop that baby on the ETB. Won't be that many reserves able to p/u the trip now..... Those blockholders who got po'd will see how lucky they were to have the reserves picking the trips up. It will blow for those that choose the ETB on reserve to have a somewhat better paycheck. It will still be possible though. Just not as much.
No, more like last year!Now we need a better reserve system as quick as YESTERDAY! ! ! !
FAA TO ENFORCE 24/7 REST FOR RESERVES AT US AIRWAYS
This issue has gone back and forth between the FAA, the AFA, other Flight Attendant unions and various airlines for over a decade. On September 12, 2006 the FAA met with the Company and AFA MEC President, Mike Flores and directed the Company to comply with the FAR "expeditiously". The FAA cited numerous complaints from US Airways Flight Attendants as a partial explanation for their focus on US Airways. Within the past two years the FAA has required other airlines, notably Northwest and American, to comply with the FAR.
Isn't this just a shame that the flight attendants had to go to the FAA and complain that the company & union could not resolve this issue.. "In-house"?
Well if you guys are so overstaffed on the east and want to fly and make a check. Why don't you ask that lineholders be able to drop their trips into open time based on staffing so the reserves can fly... win -win for everyone. Like we do on the west.
Just a thought here, but is it unrealistic to make a distinction between the language of 'on call' vs 'on duty'? This mandate will severly change the dynamics of our trade board and all who use it, both for picking up and dropping trips.
Just a thought here, but is it unrealistic to make a distinction between the language of 'on call' vs 'on duty'? This mandate will severly change the dynamics of our trade board and all who use it, both for picking up and dropping trips.
If the RSVs can't pick up ETB, as it has been in the past with the smaller bases, many of the f/as will now be able to find other part time work to make up the difference. Lineholders will have a more difficult time dumping their trips. ETB has only been around for a little over a year for U East. It was a great idea for droping trips, but I never thought it was a great thing for our labor group. Giving up your days off and add more days leaving home just to make the money the company TOOK from the group during BK was not appealing as a new life style. Way I see this issue, its going to hurt the company MUCH more than the f/as and pilots.
Seems to me the airlines are going to HAVE to "recall" and then start doing much more hiring...sea change, indeedy. The roster is about to get huge.B)
Yup. Dougie is going to have to open up the "bank".
Finally, there may now be an industry wide demand for pilots and f/as.
PITbull, in an earlier post on this thread you said this would create a need for more F/As. In other words, it would take more F/As (and therefore more payroll $) to fly the same schedule, which is more inefficient and leaves less money for other things, like raises.If I were on the MEC, I'd be negotiating anything for increases in wages across the board. The way I see this is the UNIONS are in a major leverage position. Hope they even recognize this and don't pass it up when the \company approaches...and they will come.