Rio Flt 800 fumes

[luvthe9]

History of Problems

America West has been under FAA scrutiny over maintenance for more than two years. The airline was fined $5 million in July 1998 over maintenance issues that included failing to conduct required inspections. Half of the fine was forgiven, despite local FAA officials’ objections.

This past July, the airline temporarily reduced the number of flights in order to double the number of spare planes available and otherwise to give maintenance increased attention in light of reduced earnings resulting in part from delays and cancellations.

In February, a computer glitch led to cancellation of 160 flights and left about 1,000 passengers stranded. Maintenance problems then led to flight cancellations during the Memorial Day weekend in May.

The airline had laid off 500 maintenance workers in 1995 in favor of having an outside firm handle much of the work. Many of the mechanics were rehired in late 1998.

In the current warning, the FAA expressed concern about deferred maintenance and poor oversight of heavy maintenance overhauls conducted by outside vendors.

 

[nycbusdriver]

This is Bull Feces. Somehow with the "Tempe Turds" this will be a "Job Action". It's time for someone to pull all of these incidents together and present them to DOT & the FAA and anyone else such as Rep Johns Mica's House Sub Committee of aviation.

It's time to get to the bottom of these incidents BEFORE somebody dies.

Question: Is the airworthiness of the aircraft in jeopardy when these things happen as they have?

In typical FAA fashion (we've seen it before numerous times,) they will do a cursory investigation, declare the incident a product of labor issue at US Airways, and wash their hands of it. The FAA has been called a "tombstone bureaucracy" before, and there is good reason for that characterization.

 

[luvn737s]

In typical FAA fashion (we've seen it before numerous times,) they will do a cursory investigation, declare the incident a product of labor issue at US Airways, and wash their hands of it. The FAA has been called a "tombstone bureaucracy" before, and there is good reason for that characterization.

I guess crying wolf on safety has it's consequences. Shoulda thougha that.

I am a little puzzled at why the fumes required a diversion to a USAirways on-line city like Boston. When did these fumes develop and why did they amazingly dissipate prior to landing? How many passengers were hospitalized? Why not divert into Bangor or some other closer city in light of the emergency? How many west airplanes are filled with fumes? Statistically, there have to be quite a few, if the root cause is the same.

Is this a doubling down of the failed embarrassment campaign, or something real, and will we ever know?

 

[luvthe9]

I guess crying wolf on safety has it's consequences. Shoulda thougha that.

I am a little puzzled at why the fumes required a diversion to a USAirways on-line city like Boston. When did these fumes develop and why did they amazingly dissipate prior to landing? How many passengers were hospitalized? Why not divert into Bangor or some other closer city in light of the emergency? How many west airplanes are filled with fumes? Statistically, there have to be quite a few, if the root cause is the same.

Is this a doubling down of the failed embarrassment campaign, or something real, and will we ever know?

Yo Luvn, you are really making yourself look pretty stupid on this one.

 

[Glucose Intolerant]

I guess crying wolf on safety has it's consequences.

So does "cost neutral".

 

[luvn737s]

Yo Luvn, you are really making yourself look pretty stupid on this one.

Why did 192 people smell nothing? C'mon you should at least be able to answer a few simple questions like that. I didn't even waste my time giving you the difficult ones.

I hope you got a few snapshots of you in your yellow ribbon.

 

[Barrister]

I guess crying wolf on safety has it's consequences. Shoulda thougha that.

I am a little puzzled at why the fumes required a diversion to a USAirways on-line city like Boston. When did these fumes develop and why did they amazingly dissipate prior to landing? How many passengers were hospitalized? Why not divert into Bangor or some other closer city in light of the emergency? How many west airplanes are filled with fumes? Statistically, there have to be quite a few, if the root cause is the same.

Is this a doubling down of the failed embarrassment campaign, or something real, and will we ever know?

Go to you tube and look up smoke in cabin Us Airways/ America West Hawaii to PHX...see for yourself

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Barrister]

Why did 192 people smell nothing? C'mon you should at least be able to answer a few simple questions like that. I didn't even waste my time giving you the difficult ones.

I hope you got a few snapshots of you in your yellow ribbon.

How do you know they smelled nothing.....you really look like an idiot....as usual.

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[SparrowHawk]

Until someone takes the time to gather up all of the history regarding "fume incidents" and presents it to the DOT, FAA, House Sub Committee on Aviation, the media, OSHA etc etc then it will continue unabated.

Time for someone to take a stand.

 

[luvthe9]

Until someone takes the time to gather up all of the history regarding "fume incidents" and presents it to the DOT, FAA, House Sub Committee on Aviation, the media, OSHA etc etc then it will continue unabated.

Time for someone to take a stand.

Dont' ever expect this management team to do something like that. It will take a real tradgedy for these guys to do something.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Dont' ever expect this management team to do something like that. It will take a real tradgedy for these guys to do something.

Agreed!

In order to effect change someone like a customer or employee near retirement who receives the appropriate information and act upon it.

 

[luvn737s]

How do you know they smelled nothing.....you really look like an idiot....as usual.

Let's see, because they got on another airplane and continued to their destination while sirens wailed for the drama queens who have been convinced they should help their "men". Why don't you admit that there isn't one east pilot who can be trusted to tell the truth.

Please throw more insults my way. You know how thin skinned I am. I'm crying on the inside, really.

 

[Res Judicata]

Until someone takes the time to gather up all of the history regarding "fume incidents" and presents it to the DOT, FAA, House Sub Committee on Aviation, the media, OSHA etc etc then it will continue unabated.

Time for someone to take a stand.

One small problem...its fake. As in not really happening? Never underestimate the depravity of some of these eastern "professionals".

 

[luvn737s]

Agreed!

In order to effect change someone like a customer or employee near retirement who receives the appropriate information and act upon it.

Why don't you call yourself "Swallow" since you seem to be so intimate with the east. If you had any real knowledge of this industry beyond the Sudoku in the inflight mag, you'd know that genuine safety concerns are impossible to conceal, just as are the transparent attempts to gain attention and relevance by an impotent union.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Why don't you call yourself "Swallow" since you seem to be so intimate with the east. If you had any real knowledge of this industry beyond the Sudoku in the inflight mag, you'd know that genuine safety concerns are impossible to conceal, just as are the transparent attempts to gain attention and relevance by an impotent union.

Well what are you afraid of then? Having the evidence tested by various third parties would only further prove your point if correct with the added benefit of discrediting the East. If you're right why be fearful of having the evidence tested?

Or are you afraid that putting Profit ahead of People might actually be true?

I don't call myself "Swallow" for the same reason you don't go by (insert insult here)

Name calling shows you to be immature and calls into question your fitness to fly. Never mind that it violates the TOS.