Reading Service Cancelled Too

While it may be convenient, if not downright economically correct, to talk up the importance of every city served carrying its own weight, the reality is that the hub and spoke airlines are struggling with how or if to serve many of these smaller cities. Yes, the LCCs do siphon off the largest markets – the ones that can be served on a point to point basis but there is a very real need for at least a couple nationwide network carriers to serve the hundreds of medium and small cities in the U.S.A. that will never generate enough traffic to anyone city to justify LCC service. Remember that the revenue a legacy carrier gets from carrying a connecting passenger brought into their network by a regional carrier is less than what the legacy carrier could make if they carried a local passenger and didn’t have to share the revenue with another carrier, even if it is a partner.

We are probably on the verge of seeing US and UA lead the charge in pulling out of a number of smaller cities – for UA because ORD is geographically their best hub to serve small cities but RJs are a very poor use of limiting airspace at ORD while none of the other UA hubs are big enough or geographically positioned to serve the majority of the small cities that are dependent on a major hub for service. US’ network has dozens of small cities that cannot support service either to PIT (because of the high enplaned passenger costs) or to PHL (because of the scare airspace which like UA at ORD is better suited for serving mainline flights which can compete with LCCs. That leaves CLT as the best hope US has for operating a large regional airline operation that can serve many of the cities in US’ network. Unfortunately, CLT is not a particularly large hub and doesn’t have the level of mainline flights necessary to support a large regional airline operation. To make matters worse, US is having to use their new RJs to compete against other majors like NW and DL which serve many cities in the East from hubs like ATL and DTW that are much stronger than CLT.

As with many things in life, there will probably be a wholesale pullout of service to a lot of small communities just because the economics are very unfavorable for them to be served by even the regional affiliates of the legacy/hub and spoke airlines. As airlines drop many smaller destinations, there will be calls to protect the legacies in some way from the unfavorable economics of being “burdened†to serve small and medium cities with more costly connecting service via their hubs. If we look at the telecommunications industry, there are steps now being taken to protect the investment the baby Bells made in developing their network; the government is now saying they don’t have to lease their lines at very low rates just to spur additional competition. The analogy with the airlines is obvious. Unfortunately, one or two companies are going to take the lead in withdrawing regional service and I expect it will be US and UA who will go first. There will be only a few hubs in the country that will serve a number of small communities and I predict those cities will include ATL, DFW, DTW, IAH, MSP and possibly DEN, CLT, and CVG. DEN is high cost while CVG and CLT are small cities although relatively inexpensive to operate in. The first set of cities has relatively accessible airspace, are fairly large cities, AND are relatively inexpensive hubs to operate.
 
ITRADE said:
I think part of the problem here is the fact that DOT revised its standards and requirements for the operation of 15 - 21 seat aircraft and the result of that has made it wholly unprofitable to operate in that market. As such Air Midwest is getting out of the 21 seater market. TSA did so on the west coast and in the midwest. I think the only real carrier left that operates the B-1900 at a substantial level is CommutAir. Colgan operates some, but they have reduced their numbers as well.
ZK (Great Lakes) still has plenty of 1900Ds.
 
WorldTraveler said:
...there is a very real need for at least a couple nationwide network carriers to serve the hundreds of medium and small cities in the U.S.A. that will never generate enough traffic to anyone city to justify LCC service.
You state it as if it were fact instead of opinion. I want to know why you feel that there is a real need to serve all of these tiny airstrips.
 
jimntx said:
El Paso vs Reading or Waco is not a fair example. ELP_WN_Psgr should have been a little more honest and pointed out that not only does he not subsidize Waco (simply because WN does not fly there?), but he failed to mention that WN is not EL Paso's only air service.

I wonder what his fares on WN from ELP would be if AA, CO, DL, and HP pulled out of El Paso and he was left with only WN to provide service? I think he would find that fares would go up as has happened in other cities where WN became the sole carrier or only "mainline" carrier.
I think you're twisting ELP's point here, though. His view is that as someone in a medium-sized city located far from other large- or medium-sized cities, he should not be forced to subsidize air service to small- and medium-sized cities within a reasonable (say, two hours) driving distance from a major hub. To put the example into perspective, it's like asking passengers in Syracuse to subsidize service to Reading. He is very happy that he does not subsidize service to Waco. And considering that Syracuse is a bit larger than El Paso population-wise, which one has better air service? ELP's dominant carrier has 38 daily flights on mainline jets to 11 different cities; SYR's dominant carrier (US) has about 36 daily flights to 9 cities (one is Saturday-only to MCO) but only 4 or 5 are on mainline aircraft.

The DAL-ELP walk-up of $284 round-trip is not dramatically lower than the DAL-HRL walk-up round-trip fare. How does that compare to the unrestricted fare of $1154 round-trip between PHL and IND?

Even on WN monopoly (or near-monopoly) routes, you will not see the sort of fares charged by US on its monopoly routes. DAL-HRL is $302 for a walk-up round-trip. The absolute lowest round-trip PHL-CLT fare is $362.

If other airlines completely pulled out of WN's markets, you'd see fares go up slightly, I'm sure. Maybe up to 20-25%. But certainly not to the ridiculous (to most people) levels charged by network carriers on many routes.

Singleflyer makes the astute observation that the road network has improved dramatically over the past several decades, and air service to smaller communities is thus no longer the lifeline it once was. What's the point of connecting in PHL to and from RDG (or at PIT to and from LBE) when it is often faster and less complicated to just drive to PHL (or PIT)? High-priced service on turboprops isn't more appealing to most people than just driving to a hub.
 
You state it as if it were fact instead of opinion. I want to know why you feel that there is a real need to serve all of these tiny airstrips.

Michael,
I believe there is the market for at least two major network carriers to fly a network with 200-300 cities in it and that includes a lot of small to medium sized cities like Des Moines, Tucson, Greensboro, Rochester, and even El Paso that can support being connected to a nationwide air transportation network. The level of service JetBlue provides Rochester or Southwest provides El Paso will not suffice for cities of those size (and there are hundreds of cities like them in the air transportation system). However, you don't need six network airlines serving Rochester (I believe it is served by all six network airlines or their regional affiliates). And B6's Emb190s aren't going to provide true nationwide service from any city because B6 will never develop the hub structure that exists at the legacy airlines. I believe cities like State College and Binghamton are served by affiliates of DL, NW, and US which is more than adequate if not excessive service for cities of that size. Cities like Reading and Hickory, I don't know but I kinda doubt it.

Given that there are 6 airlines with networks of several hundred cities now, I feel pretty confident in saying that there will continue to be a market for at least 2 airlines having that level of service going into the future.
 
WorldTraveler,

I think you underestimate the level of air service that WN provides ELP. However, I do believe that cities like DSM are in a position to provide sufficient demand to support air service. It's too far from OMA or MCI to make those acceptable alternates. I'm talking about service to places like SAF or LRU...those are simply not good candidates for scheduled service.
 

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