PSA 900's Dead

[gabby]

ALPA message saying that talks between Management and ALPA have stopped. I guess DP is going to sell us out to Mesa. Well the old saying goes "You get what you pay for."

How many people will leave PSA knowing that the 50 seaters are on the way out and there is nothing going to replace them? 10 year F/O upgrade anyone?

 

[N924PS]

ALPA message saying that talks between Management and ALPA have stopped. I guess DP is going to sell us out to Mesa. Well the old saying goes "You get what you pay for."

How many people will leave PSA knowing that the 50 seaters are on the way out and there is nothing going to replace them? 10 year F/O upgrade anyone?

Maybe he can cut a deal with Mainline to fly them. With 1500 pilots on furlough getting highly qualified pilots to fly them is no problem.

That is where aircraft of this gauge should always have been placed.



Heloo, Mainline MEC, are you listening?

 

[Strider]

Maybe he can cut a deal with Mainline to fly them. With 1500 pilots on furlough getting highly qualified pilots to fly them is no problem.

That is where aircraft of this gauge should always have been placed.
Heloo, Mainline MEC, are you listening?

Why would you want these....I thought you guys were getting the 190's?

 

[Nebucanezzar]

N924PS speaks the truth.

 

[algflyr]

On another board this topic is running. The rumor is Republic will get them. Just spreading the rumor...

What will peanut do now??

 

[Capecod]

ALPA message saying that talks between Management and ALPA have stopped. I guess DP is going to sell us out to Mesa.

As a Mesa pilot, i am very very sorry to hear this. You guys made the right stand and you deserve these 900s. This is DP sending a message to EVERYONE at airways. "Stand up to me and you will lose". No matter what happens, remember you did the right thing. I hope my brothers at Mesa make the same stand starting next yr. I know I will.

And I don't think these airplanes will go to Mesa. I keep hearing JO and DP are not on the best of terms (JOs such an idiot, who else gets in pissing contests with there employers but Mesa and JO, idiot). Look for CHQ or SKW (that the other carrier that I know bid on the flying) to get the flying if you guys don't. Good luck. -Cape

 

[Furloughedagain]

Foolish question strider. It would take around 150 aircraft to absorb 1500 furloughees.

Every single additional aircraft that goes on the USAir property brings people back to work.

I dont care whether they're E190s, CRJ-900s, or Saab 340s. Until the furloughees are all recalled (or they have chosen to bypass) every new aircraft should be at the mainline. Sadly, it's a pipe dream.

 

[WSurf]

Foolish question strider. It would take around 150 aircraft to absorb 1500 furloughees.

Every single additional aircraft that goes on the USAir property brings people back to work.

I dont care whether they're E190s, CRJ-900s, or Saab 340s. Until the furloughees are all recalled (or they have chosen to bypass) every new aircraft should be at the mainline. Sadly, it's a pipe dream.

How many are left of the 1500? And how many would even want to come back to our Kracker Jack operation!

 

[Furloughedagain]

How many are left of the 1500? And how many would even want to come back to our Kracker Jack operation!

Who knows? Frankly it is irrelevent. It is the principal of the matter.

ALPA's first priority should be jobs. They have failed miserably over the last 5 years. They have allowed unprecedented outsourcing to occur even as nearly two-thousand pilots were laid off.

The association needs to draw a line in the sand. No more outsourcing of labor.

Or... to paraphrase Chris Beebe, "Not one nickel. Not one job."

Anything over 70 seats should be flown at the mainline. Period.

 

[Crzipilot]

Furloughed,

Screw it...anything with an engine that goes through the air, should be at mainline......

 

[WSurf]

Who knows? Frankly it is irrelevent. It is the principal of the matter.

ALPA's first priority should be jobs. They have failed miserably over the last 5 years. They have allowed unprecedented outsourcing to occur even as nearly two-thousand pilots were laid off.

The association needs to draw a line in the sand. No more outsourcing of labor.

Or... to paraphrase Chris Beebe, "Not one nickel. Not one job."

Anything over 70 seats should be flown at the mainline. Period.

I can't agree more! However, Look at the WO's PDT/ALG!! We had our flying taken away from us by contract carriers!! We have lost 50% of our fleet over the last 5 years!!! Sorry, but I don't have much sympathy for the mainline folks when we have been screwed just has hard!!!!

Here's an idea..... Take PDT/PSA attach them to mainline!! One seniority flying Dash's, CRJ's 190's Boeing and Airbus's!!! One list, and no contract carriers!!! Bang, your done!! All flying stays in house!!! Opps, I was dreaming..

 

[nostradamus]

Who knows? Frankly it is irrelevent. It is the principal of the matter.

ALPA's first priority should be jobs. They have failed miserably over the last 5 years. They have allowed unprecedented outsourcing to occur even as nearly two-thousand pilots were laid off.

The association needs to draw a line in the sand. No more outsourcing of labor.

Or... to paraphrase Chris Beebe, "Not one nickel. Not one job."

Anything over 70 seats should be flown at the mainline. Period.

Usairways Doug Parker wrote off the PSA pilots in his latest meeting with employees.

What is Alpa and the rest of the pilots in the industry going to do for PSA for standing up to the Crj 900. Nada, Zip, zero. Alpa pilots voted to ok rjs and when they started to be placed at different companies, the same people that voted for it, cry to their mamas when someone gets them.

Do not show the yellow on your back when your mainline contracts give away flying, then expect the the innocent young kids coming into this industry to sacrifice their careers. Leadership is what they need and the present Alpa wears pink panties when it comes to this.

If you expect pilots to at PSA and other regionals to back you, you have to back them by putting your but on the line and make a sacrifice.

Cris Beebe talks tough in is non paycutted ivory tower, but no one up there walks the walk. The should feel ashamed about themselves.

I am a Mainline Pilot, that is frankly tired of watching my peers pick on the young regional pilots. We are leaving them a disaster because we have no guts

 

[Furloughedagain]

Nostradamus,

Captain Beebe's famous, "Not one nickle, not one job" line was spoken in 2001, prior to 09/11, when he was still the MEC chairman.

 

[Dorf]

Nostradamus,

Captain Beebe's famous, "Not one nickle, not one job" line was spoken in 2001, prior to 09/11, when he was still the MEC chairman.

It should actually be "Mr." Beebe now, since he has not been in charge of an airliner for a long time. And don't give me the ALPA "once a Captain, always a Captain" party line...most of the AAA pilots have been Captains in the past and ALPA now refers to them as Mr. if they have been downgraded.

 

[nostradamus]

Nostradamus,

Captain Beebe's famous, "Not one nickle, not one job" line was spoken in 2001, prior to 09/11, when he was still the MEC chairman.

Thank you for clarifying that for me.