Plane skids off runway at LaGuardia

[700UW]

poor 700,
you don't know that the reason why the Wall Street Journal is the most widely read business journal in the world is because they know how to get the information.

The WSJ has talked to NTSB who made the statements I cited.

the WSJ certainly doesn't have the means to proclaim that the pilots' aspect of the landing was per DL safety and training procedures. They do have the means to quote NTSB officials who told them that.

plz be sure and let me know if the case turns towards a focus on the pilots.

Outright lie.
 
World Fraudster is making things up again, the article doesnt cite speaking with the NTSB:
 

Federal investigators suspect potential brake problems, perhaps complicated by other factors, caused a Delta Air Lines Inc. jet to skid off a snowy runway last week at New York’s La Guardia Airport, according to people familiar with the probe.
 
Based on preliminary information retrieved from “black box” recorders and pilot interviews, this person said, investigators are focusing on the performance of the braking system, which was set to operate automatically consistent with the airline’s procedures and safety rules.
 
Press officials for the National Transportation Safety Board, which is leading the investigation, declined to comment on the focus of the probe. On Sunday night, a Delta spokeswoman declined to comment while the investigation is pending.
 

 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-crash-investigators-suspect-possible-brake-problems-1425852167
 
Seems World Fraudster got caught out there once again, no one from the NTSB commented.

 

[BABABOOY]

You take this photo yourself?
No credit given?
who is the fraudster ?

 

[Kev3188]

Speaking of "credit," I'd like to "cite" the LD3 dolly holding up the forward end of the fuselage. They're truly one of the unsung heroes in all of this.

Also, the NTSB's Twitter account is a great follow for those into that sort of thing. You can also quote things and it'll do the work for you...

 

[700UW]

Yep the NTSB is who posted the photo, its a good feed to follow.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Speaking of "credit," I'd like to "cite" the LD3 dolly holding up the forward end of the fuselage. They're truly one of the U sung heroes in all of this.
Also, the NTSB's Twitter account is a great follow for those into that sort of thing. You can also quote things and it'll do the work for you...

I noticed that too Kevin. I was very surprised its ident number wasn't covered to protect its identity.

 

[700UW]

You take this photo yourself?
No credit given?
who is the fraudster ?

 

[N924PS]

Outright lie.
 
World Fraudster is making things up again, the article doesnt cite speaking with the NTSB:
 

 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-crash-investigators-suspect-possible-brake-problems-1425852167
 
Seems World Fraudster got caught out there once again, no one from the NTSB commented.

Latest from NTSB:

http://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/PR20150309.aspx

 

[WorldTraveler]

unless you think that DL paid off the NTSB to exonerate its pilots, the NTSB pulled the black boxes, analyzed the data in them, and had full control of them.

the only way that DL or the WSJ could possibly know the data from the black box was because someone at the NTSB talked - either to DL or the WSJ.

the NTSB will do a full evaluation but preliminary information could go a long ways to making sure that if there were some type of problem that could be solved by an early discovery of the problem - and by ruling out what are not problems - then it is absolutely valid for them to give preliminary information on what they have found - and they do it with regularity after US aircraft accidents.

from the NTSB's latest report

•The Operations and Human Performance groups interviewed the flight crew on Saturday in Atlanta, Ga. The crew stated: ◦They based their decision to land on braking action reports of "good," which they received from air traffic control.
◦That the runway appeared all white when they broke out of the overcast, moments before landing.
◦That the automatic spoilers did not deploy but that the first officer quickly deployed them manually.
◦That the auto brakes were set to ‘max’ but that they did not sense any wheel brake deceleration.
◦The captain reported that he was unable to prevent the airplane from drifting left.

•Investigators with the Airworthiness group will continue to examine and test the antiskid, autobrake and thrust reverser systems today.

 

[700UW]

You got caught fabricating once again.

And yet you continue with the lies.

 

[WorldTraveler]

No, I didn't. I actually identified exactly that the pilots are not the focus of the investigation but the braking system and related systems are.

in your 2x2 inch world, everything that doesn't conform with your view of the world is fabrication.

you clearly have a very rigid personality with no possibility for anything to be outside of your narrative or methodology.

I do feel sorry for you. I really do.

 

[WorldTraveler]

No, I didn't. I actually identified exactly that the pilots are not the focus of the investigation but the braking system and related systems are.

in your 2x2 inch world, everything that doesn't conform with your view of the world is fabrication.

you clearly have a very rigid personality with no possibility for anything to be outside of your narrative or methodology.

I do feel sorry for you. I really do.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Talking to yourself again?

 

[swamt]

Well since the NTSB has not released any official statements in regard to any causes, I would say World Fraudster is making up "facts" once again.
 
This is the only official statement:
Seems now World Fraudster is making  himself to be an Aircraft Accident Safety Expert.
 
Your lying again, go figure.

700, It's ok. He's such a moron he didn't even get the idea behind my post, obviously.  He looks for any way possible to make me look bad or cut me down. But the more he does it the more he makes himself look like an idiot and moron, let him go, he's doing a fine job all by himself, as he normally does...

 

[swamt]

Talking to yourself again?

Yes he is. Fixin to go off the deep end again, as 700 points out all his lies and made up stories...

 

[WorldTraveler]

700, It's ok. He's such a moron he didn't even get the idea behind my post, obviously.  He looks for any way possible to make me look bad or cut me down. But the more he does it the more he makes himself look like an idiot and moron, let him go, he's doing a fine job all by himself, as he normally does...

then write clearly what you mean.

when you post that DL and ALPA paid off the government, then you should expect it to be interpreted as exactly what I said.

the only moron is you for thinking that DL or ALPA NEEDED to pay anyone.

In contrast, WN's accident at LGA was indeed pilot error.

The accident investigation will show what it did... and so far, the NTSB HAS SAID that pilots did what they were supposed to do, the landing was normal, and by the textbook as it is trained which leaves open the possibility of brake or aircraft system failure or unique handling characteristics of the M80 on wet/contaminated runways.

interestingly, there are shades of the AA LIT accident

so far, there is no indication that the pilots needed to pay anything to anybody.

now, would you like to clarify your comment or retract it?