ManDachine
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What is the phone number to check?
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You have to pay dues as a condition of employment, they can fire you.
Positions available for returning furloughed pilots (F/O positions, obviously):
CLT 76D - 5
CLT 737 - 19
DCA 319 - 19
DCA 737 - 3
PHL 76I - 24
PHL 737 - 32
PHL 319 - 43
PHL 190 - 30
LGA 319 - 23
BOS 319 - 10
Jim
You have to pay dues as a condition of employment, they can fire you.
Don't believe any pilot ever has been. ALPA must petition the company to do such..blah blah blah...never happened.
Besides you can opt out of ALPA and just pay the service charge.....
1-800-438-3221, VRS# option 2What is the phone number to check?
What's interesting is that with a "realistic solution" to the Nicolau Award the West pilots could inherit the airline, but with the current state of affairs new hires are going to inherit the East side of the operation and the West will have only PHX/LAS to bid -- with very little seniority list movement.
The East November/December Pilot Permanent Bid result is going to provide meaningful pay raises as F/O's become Captain's, Narrowbody pilots become Widebody pilots, Reserves become Lineholders, and Group II F/O's become EMB-190 Captains.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
It is theoretically possible for a pilot to get fired for non-payment of ALPA dues. Actually, even that is not true. It is perfectly legal for a pilot to quit ALPA and remain employed by paying "contract administration" fees to ALPA. This amounts to about 70% of the regular dues. ALPA has no recourse to have a pilot fired if these fees are paid.
If the pilot refuses to even pay those administrative fees, it is theoretically possible that the pilot can be fired at ALPA's request. We have dozens of pilots who have not paid a dime to ALPA in years, yet are still collecting paychecks here. There is not one case to point to where a pilot has been fired over non-payment of ALPA dues. It's all theory, and possible, but not happening in the real world. There are so many tactics available to fend off the actual termination that most pilots could probably spend their entire career in the process of getting fired, but not ever actually GET fired for dues non-payment.
If ALPA ever managed to get one pilot fired, the "poster child" would be known by all. And there are NONE.
I'm not advocating stopping dues payments. The east needs everybody in good standing so that they can vote on contracts and LOAs, and so their reps can have "roll call power" (of course, it would be great to have more CLT pilots in bad standing to take some power out of the "weak sister" reps.)
At any rate, every pilot (dues payer or not, bad standing or not) gets to vote in the forthcoming representational elections by federal law.
Perhaps there are a few pilots in the east which are truly happy just for the essentials of a good, prosperous life.
If my math is correct there are 208 East pilot open bid positions for furloughees and/or new hires for November and December. And, the good news is that this same rate of attrtion will extend into the future.
What's interesting is that with a "realistic solution" to the Nicolau Award the West pilots could inherit the airline, but with the current state of affairs new hires are going to inherit the East side of the operation and the West will have only PHX/LAS to bid -- with very little seniority list movement.
The East November/December Pilot Permanent Bid result is going to provide meaningful pay raises as F/O's become Captain's, Narrowbody pilots become Widebody pilots, Reserves become Lineholders, and Group II F/O's become EMB-190 Captains.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Said "good, prosperous life" requires the maintenance of seniority....period, and on that point, swords are drawn.
Thank you for admitting seniority at one's company is everything. It should be preserved. Mine wasn't preserved with Nicolau because I lost 5% with the decision. The senior pilots at AWA lost a lot more. Such is life. So, my friend, what is good for is good for me. You and your junior FO's have no right to my seniority. You deserve to be where you are because of your own decisions in life. Please do not blame me or expect me to pick up the pieces to your failed airline career. I say this with sorrow, too. The road you PSA and Piedmont pilots have had to endure is certainly a Shakespear tragedy in the story of professional flying. But it still does not avail you to my captain seat or the seniority I brought to the merger. Best of luck in your sobering reconciliation with reality.