Philadelphia Experiment

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Again, the two sides differ on the details of what happened, but what all agree is that organizers from the Transport Workers Union were in Philadelphia on Feb. 8 as part of a campaign to gain support from US Airways workers and swing them to the TWU side.

The IAM, in a court filing, claims the TWU organizers tried to force IAM-represented US Airways employees from the Marriott Hotel meeting room and then "physically assaulted" them. The IAM claims its members fought back in self-defense.

The TWU, in a statement to the National Mediation Board, tells a different story. It claims several IAM officials warned them to leave the room and one pointed to a group of men waiting outside, wearing US Airways uniforms, and said: "If they come in here, I can't be responsible for what they are about to do."

Soon thereafter, 25 men rushed into the room, throwing chairs and tables, breaking glass, punching and kicking the five TWU organizers. One TWU organizer said he deflected four or five chairs before being hit with several others. At least five men pulled him to the ground, held him down and kicked him repeatedly, according to the statement.

Another man said he had a hot cup of coffee thrown in his face. Yet another man from the TWU described being cornered by five men who "rammed" him against the wall several times with a large metal dining cart. The man, according to a statement filed with the National Mediation Board, "became convinced the attackers were trying to kill him." On "sheer adrenaline," he pushed the cart and his attackers back and escaped, only to be pinned against a filing cabinet and hit with repeated blows to his head. He said he yelled: "Enough! Enough!"

When an alarm sounded, the men from the IAM left, according to the testimony. Two men were rushed to emergency room of a nearby hospital with concussions, eye injuries, lacerations, "possibly broken ribs" and "bumps and bruises all over their bodies."

Two days later, TWU Executive Vice President Jim Little referred to what happened as a "bloody and violent retaliation" for organizing efforts and described it as the most violent airline labor episode in 50 years -- "a throwback back to an era that should have been closed long ago." US Airways fired 22 people as a result of the incident, which it called "isolated" and not indicative of attitudes held by the company's 35,000 employees.

A TWU spokesman could not be reached for comment, but Bill Gray, president of the TWU Local 547 in Pittsburgh, said one of the men involved in the fight has set up "an armed camp at his house" and believes "they are coming after him.It's unimaginable the thuggery that took place."

For the US Airways merger to succeed, he said, the squabbling has to stop. "Clearly, we have to get our act together and keep it together."

 

[Awa Contract]

Nice of the IAM officials to give a disclaimer before sending in THIER dogs.

 

[700UW]

How does the ibt do it since they lead all unions by a 2 to 1 margin on member violence?

 

[IAM1776PHL]

How does the ibt do it since they lead all unions by a 2 to 1 margin on member violence?


Please stick to the subject.....

 

[SCUBAgal]

Can someone PLEASE exlain what this incident has to do with the IBT anyway?

 

[Snafu]

Can someone PLEASE exlain what this incident has to do with the IBT anyway?

Not a damn thing. Just another feeble attempt for 700UW to try and push the heat away from his beloved IAM.

Keep trying. I don't think it's going to work any more. Too late, the dirty deed is done. Time to find a new and better allegance. You might find it better.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

How does the ibt do it since they lead all unions by a 2 to 1 margin on member violence?

I might be wrong but the IBT would beat the crap out of scabs not like the IAM who beat up their own people or other hard working union brothers

 

[700UW]

The ibt organized scab mechanics at CO and Scab F/As at an airline in Canada.

Don't let the facts get in your way!

 

[delldude]

I might be wrong but the IBT would beat the crap out of scabs not like the IAM who beat up their own people or other hard working union brothers

at an airline up canada they recruited them.

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So during the lockout the Teamsters set sights on the scabs. Getting them to sign union cards and saying that they would be the only group certified to work on Nationair aircraft and that the locked out flight attendants walking the picket lines would be history, never coming back because they weren't part of the Teamsters union.

As it turned out, Nationair didn't have a problem with it's flight attendants being part of a union, as long as it was the Teamsters union. Apparently, what they really had a problem with was CUPE. You know you're in trouble when a company wants you to join a certain union.

It all got rather confusing I'm sure... the company endorsing one union over the one they'd locked out, saying that they'll negotiate with the Teamsters but not CUPE, the Teamsters claiming that they were the official representatives of the "new" flight attendants,and then the locked out union members picketing corporate headquarters and saying that they were the first and only bargaining unit for flight attendants.

 

[Tim Nelson]

The ibt organized scab mechanics at CO and Scab F/As at an airline in Canada.

Don't let the facts get in your way!

700, exactly why are/were Continental mechanics scabs?

regards,

 

[gonzo]

How does the ibt do it since they lead all unions by a 2 to 1 margin on member violence?

ROFL........Let's see if I can put it in words you use....."what is it you don't comprehend" this is not about the IBT. It's about 25 IAM members beating on 5 TWU members. SELF DEFENSE claims by the IAM are totally part of the "panty waist" tactics used by the IAM.

Keep trying 7.

 

[700UW]

Because in 1983 Frank Lorenzo used the bankrupcty court to void every CBA and eliminated all unions from CO's property.

Section 1113 was not in exsistance back then and because of what he did Congress changed the laws.

The IAM represented mechanics along with all other unions struck CO.

 

[IAM1776PHL]

Because in 1983 Frank Lorenzo used the bankrupcty court to void every CBA and eliminated all unions from CO's property.

Section 1113 was not in exsistance back then and because of what he did Congress changed the laws.

The IAM represented mechanics along with all other unions struck CO.

Oh thats why
Soon thereafter, 25 men rushed into the room, throwing chairs and tables, breaking glass, punching and kicking the five TWU organizers.
I get it...

 

[delldude]

Oh thats why
Soon thereafter, 25 men rushed into the room, throwing chairs and tables, breaking glass, punching and kicking the five TWU organizers.
I get it...

no,no...it was self defense.... :unsure:

 

[IAM1776PHL]

no,no...it was self defense.... :unsure:

Oh...you mean another lame defence excuse .