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[USA320Pilot]

Cosmo:

USA320Pilot said: "Thus, improving fundamentals due to falling fuel prices, summer time traffic, and pricing power will be key factors."

Cosmo said: "Hold your horses, there, Sparky! Just a few hours ago (at 7:42 PM) you posted the following quote regarding US Airways on the "How Much Time Do We Have Left?" thread:"

USA320Pilot responds: Does it make you feel like a big person to call people names and be unprofessional? In regard to my comment above, let me be a little more clear and adjust my comment to: "(If there is) improving fundamentals due to falling fuel prices, summer time traffic, and (then) pricing power will be (a) key factor."

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[mweiss]

Does it make you feel like a big person to call people names and be unprofessional?

He was colloquial and informal, yes. But calling you names? That's a mighty big stretch.

And you must admit, your original comment read like a prediction, not a hypothetical. Sounded just as contradictory to me.

 

[ClueByFour]

It's not a rumor, the report came from ALPA E&FA who was involved in the discussions.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

In which case, they (ALPA) almost surely violated a non-disclosure with America West, the ATSB, or both.

 

[Cosmo]

Oh, c'mon ... you're offended by the name "Sparky"? Given the way that you regularly make (IMHO) purposefully misleading and fact-mangling posts on these boards, I had no idea you'd be so thin-skinned. Perhaps I should've added a smilie.

(Sigh!)

But, OK ... if that truly offended you, I apologize.

 

[funguy2]

USA320Pilot asnwers: America West violated the ATSB EBITDAR requirement, but the board took no action. ALPA E&FA was directly involved in negotiation because the America West pilots were involved in new contract talks, which resulted in a new CBA.

So what was the EBITDAR requirement and how did AWA break it? Given that US Airways moved to avoid busting its loan covenants months in advance, why would you think that America West management knowingly defaulted on their commitments?

So prove it USA320Pilot. You are all-knowing, I realize. But my research did not come up with any stated EBITDAR requirement in AWA's ATSB loan information. So tell us, what the requirement is, and how they broke it.

As you admitted, this information came from ALPA, which was negotiating with the airline at the time. I am sure the ATSB would never make false claims for the purpose of getting everyone reiled up, and trying to create diversions for management.

If the federal governement allowed AWA to violate their loan agreement, then you should call your senator and congressman and demand an investigation.

I consider this another baseless fact which you will not support with hard evidence. As usual.

And again, as I have said before... Just because ALPA said it doesn't make it true. When you make these statements, your credibility is lost, not ALPA's, because ALPA cannot be documented as saying this.

 

[funguy2]

Mweiss, in regard to my knowledge of the America West covenant violation, I learned of the default through ALPA, along with other Association members. Moreover, it’s my understanding the Phoenix-based Company is back in compliance with the loan guarantee covenants.

Nice back-peddling.

Can't say that ALPA might have been trying to stir up trouble during a heated almost 4-year-long negotiation process, can you?