New Load Plans?

[Ramp Rogue]

How are our cities with ramp coping with the new AA load plans?
 

 

[robbedagain]

hate it..    it take me some time to get use to it..  

 

[Hope777]

How are our cities with ramp coping with the new AA load plans?
 

Care to Explain for those of us who dont know what your talking about???

 

[robbedagain]

if youre doing the clp for any particular flight...  when u pull up the load plan  instead of using AC or FC  it is now broken down into A1  A2 AB  for the rear  and for the front its F2 and F1

 

[Hope777]

if youre doing the clp for any particular flight...  when u pull up the load plan  instead of using AC or FC  it is now broken down into A1  A2 AB  for the rear  and for the front its F2 and F1

Thanks Robbed, So it is back to what it was years ago when USAir went to Sabre.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Thanks Robbed, So it is back to what it was years ago when USAir went to Sabre.

 
Is that what they call "The Circle of Life"?  🙂

 

[robbedagain]

np hope.   busdriver  you summed it up quite unique   of course the circus at the airline is a circle of life

 

[ChockJockey]

It's really not that bad.  There were some hiccups when they first loaded the changes into DECS (some flights departed late due to no load plans) but that's not very surprising.  Hopefully this new setup will help those crews/stations that sometimes struggle to properly separate bin contents.  Many more such changes to come no doubt.
 

Two things airline employees dislike the most: 1) Change 2) The way things are.

 
Giggity.

 

[Jester]

These new plans are an operational disaster in the making... we get the most inane plans which of little bearing in reality.  95 bags in the forward bin of an A319?  Let's hope they aren't JFK sized bags.  Maybe an A321 aft bin estimating 120 bags, but only 30 in A1, thus 90 in A2?  So A1 hasn't been bulked-out, thus 20 bags which could have fit now won't fit in A2!  Call-up requesting more weight, and the "solution" is AB (taper)... uhhh.... yeah, we now have 70 bags stacked in front of the net.  We get plans for 15 bags in forward bin of an A321... easy short stack, right?  Oh yeah... next to the bulk head, so now we need 2 people in the bin for an otherwise simple load. 
 
I am seeing many more "TR" reasons as not to take freight, as we don't have the time (man hours) to handle these new silly plans.  The uploads are taking more time, and so are the downloads as short stacks aren't nearly as common.  Is this serious saving that much more fuel by having the bags 8 feet further away than previously?  Not to mention, rejected freight, delayed flights, and probably the need for more staffing.
 
It is a stupid idea.

 

[Black Magic]

Very stupid!! Since short stacking the bins is pretty much bye bye now. Not to mention there will always have to be 2 people in the bin leaving the teamlead by himself on the ground to do it all. Same goes for the download,..50 bags against the wall in the back of airbus 320 for some poor soul to offload! Don't think so!! Somebody better come up and help. Highly inneficient! Oh you have a heavy bag?? Nope cant put that on the bottom on the other side of A2 bin. It needs to go right on the top of the stack of A1 until it is full...complete BS!

 

[700UW]

Work Safe.

 

[PullUp]

There are reasons AA went BK.
Speak up and tell ur supervisors and make sure they communicate it up the chain.
Just because "that's the way we've always done it" or it's "the AA WAAy" doesn't cut it if it's inefficient.
Inefficiency costs money in all the ways youv'e described. We all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Doug, Scooter, and Isom don't like to waste money on "stupid".
Good luck.
Cheers

 

[Harry Callahan]

As 700 says WORK SAFE. Why would you only have one person in the bin to start with ?
 
Harry

 

[Hope777]

Should Never be one agent in the Bin.  Possibly in the Front of the A319, but only after most bags have been loaded.  Foolish

 

[traderjake]

Twice in the last two weeks the CLT ramp agents asked us to turn off the packs  because the aft 320 cargo bin was hot.
 
I've never had this request before.
 
How hot does the aft bin get in PHX in the summer?