New A330's

[700UW]

If you're going to call someone stupid, can you at least use the correct grammar?




or I'm going to have to call the grammar police on you.

"we only use...?" I thought you were retired.


and some other US airline that has never flown to Malaysia has -MH registrations on a fleet of int'l aircraft that were delivered new to that carrier.

Excuse me Mr Shakespeare, some of us were at work and only had a few minutes to post and didnt proofread.

Get a life.

 

[700UW]

Actually NW owned the rights to the "US" designator, when they bought Muse Air, there code was MC, and the military wanted MC for some of their planes as they wanted it to stand for "military cargo or charter" So NW traded MC for US and then US got the code from NW, that is why you will see some NW planes with the "US" on them.

That is what I remember.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

They have been purchased to fly SIN-CLT nonstop.

Registration N700AA and N701AA.

Per faa.gov: N700AA is Jensen Turbo Courier (some sort of home build GA type) N701AA is a Smith-Roland Zenith CH701, another light single engine of some sort. Nice try, WT!

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

An, I believe, Northwest scooped a a whole lot of "US" registration numbers. For God only knows what reason.

IIRC it was some sort of patriotic PR thing during the Cold War. "That'll show Uncle Ivan!"

 

[autofixer]

I think that Airbus is still selling A333s; there's an order backlog of about 160 of them yet to be built. The -200s carry about 43% more fuel than the -300s, not double the fuel.

Whatever; I fly the A330 and our -200s carry a maximum capacity of exactly 100% more fuel than the -300s. I just checked the manual. I would rather not put the exact numbers on this public site, but it is 100%. It may be a USAirism.

 

[cynic]

Whatever; I fly the A330 and our -200s carry exactly 100% more fuel than the -300s. I just checked the manual and it says -200 max fuel load 244,000#, -300 max fuel load172,000#. Maybe it is a USAirism, but it is a fact.

172 * 2 = 344

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

From the Airbus website, http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-200/specifications/:
-200: Max fuel capacity [background=transparent]139 090 [background=transparent]litres[/background][/background]
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-300/specifications/
-300: Max fuel capacity [background=transparent]97 530 [background=transparent]litres[/background][/background]


I am way too lazy and tired to convert litres into pounds... Oh for gigs and shiggles: A350-800: 138 000 litres. A340-600 Not that we will ever see one: 195 520 litres.

 

[FWAAA]

Whatever; I fly the A330 and our -200s carry a maximum capacity of exactly 100% more fuel than the -300s. I just checked the manual. I would rather not put the exact numbers on this public site, but it is 100%. It may be a USAirism.

Perhaps a refersher course on the use of a four-function pocket calculator would serve you well. Perhaps fourth grade math is not your strong suit.

According to Airbus, an A332 has a max fuel capacity of 139,090 litres:

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-200/specifications/

And an A333 has a max fuel capacity of 97,530 litres:

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-300/specifications/

I don't even need to get out my calculator to see that the A332 holds slightly less than 50% more fuel than the A333.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Actually NW owned the rights to the "US" designator, when they bought Muse Air, there code was MC, and the military wanted MC for some of their planes as they wanted it to stand for "military cargo or charter" So NW traded MC for US and then US got the code from NW, that is why you will see some NW planes with the "US" on them.

That is what I remember.

The "US" designator has nothing at all to do with the registration numbers. Nothing. Registration is first come, first served and can me reserved, which is what Northwest did with registrations ending in US.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Whatever; I fly the A330 and our -200s carry a maximum capacity of exactly 100% more fuel than the -300s. I just checked the manual. I would rather not put the exact numbers on this public site, but it is 100%. It may be a USAirism.

Why would you not put exact numbers on this public site? Those numbers are publicly available on many sites, including Airbus.

 

[Kev3188]

An, I believe, Northwest scooped a a whole lot of "US" registration numbers. For God only knows what reason.

Correct. One can still see 'em on (at least) 747's/757's/and A320's...

 

[700UW]

Because years ago NW thought about changing their name to USAir and decided against it.

I am trying to find the article that explained how it was a three way swap.

 

[700UW]

AL changed it's 2 letter code to US in 1989. It used to be the the designator for "Military Charter", who then changed their code to MC. Northwest never had the designator US. Although some of their aircraft registration #'s do reflect this.

(Military Airlift Command). When Transtar Airlines (formerly called Muse Air-MC) was shutdown by WN the code MC became available and MAC was willing to change their code to MC.That is how USAir (AL then from their Allegheny days) got the code US.

The US code was because it was Donald Nyrop that wanted to eventually change the Northwest name to US Airlines. It's in the NW history books, and thats why there were several planes with the US in the beginning.

 

[WorldTraveler]

There is no need to convert liters to gallons because the Airbus cite has a toggle button to convert all of the data from metric to imperial.

The 333 has less fuel capacity because it shares the same takeoff weight with the 332; the whole idea behind the 332 was to shorten the body (reducing fuselage weight and passengers) in order to carry more fuel. The two aircraft serve different market segments and Airbus has done a good job of building an aircraft that has good, competitive economics for the short body version (332) while the 333 has outstanding CASM compared to other large twins or other aircraft that can operate 10-12 hour flights.

The capabilities of the A330 family are changing as they increase the takeoff weight which allows the aircraft to push further into the territory that the 787 will occupy or the 777 currently occupies.

Care should be used in asserting the specific fuel capacities for any aircraft since commercial aircraft are highly customizable and airlines can and do remove/add/deactivate fuel tanks based on their intended usage of the aircraft. If someone says that their specific aircraft hold XXX percent more fuel than another model, I'm going to believe them over the generic information available on the manufacturer's website Both sets of information can be correct but airline and aircraft specific information will always trump everything else.

 

[PI Dreams]

A little off-topic, with apologies.
Northwest was an early carrier of US mail and chose the "us" suffix for their aircraft registrations because of that.
They stuck with that into modern times. In fact, their pilot's uniform hat brass had "US Mail" on it.