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PlayTheOdds

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Have you ever heard the term "If it isn't broke don't fix it."? Where do they get some of these guys from? NWA brings in a brand new workforce and basically gives them free reign to make this work. Well it did work, worked beyond anyone’s expectations for that matter. We came in here and kicked arse, that’s all there is to it. Well the NWA management team has been taking the reins and things are slowly turning south for us. We took our worst week for delays this year in April because management does not want us to greet the aircraft anymore. They want us to go out to the aircraft on an "on call basis." There are a couple of rumors as to why this is, I think it is a combination of both.

"We are short on manpower so go to the aircraft only when called." The problem with this is that many times if there is a write-up it is not sent to us across ACARS so we do not know there is a write-up until the next crew comes on board and calls us. By this time passengers are loading. So the problem immediately gets deferred or fixed with a delay. Same goes for anything found during the pilots walk around. We are losing precious ground time waiting on calls.

Next rumor, "We are finding too much wrong and trying to fix it or defer it, upper management thinks that if you don't see it, it isn't broke. A lot of the things that we find would not have been found by the pilot."

I didn't put much credit towards this one until one day after our horrible week of delays we took it upon ourselves to greet the aircraft and had a delay for an item we found. We were asked, "Who found the item?" No big deal right? That question was followed up with, "Why were you out there if you were not called?" :lol: I could not believe I was being asked that. They want us to sit out on a originating aircraft with a fresh Line Check for an hour in the event something goes wrong, but they do not want us to greet the inbound aircraft. It is silly things like this that gets under the skin of contractors and sends them on their way. When we greet the aircraft our delay count is low, when we don't greet it the delay count goes up. It's pretty much a no brainer as to which way you need to go with this.

Here's another good one. They have this new checklist for waking the birds up. It has a larger scope than a TA check that would have just been accomplished on the aircraft if not a Line check. :lol: This is just crazy.

There are a bunch of little things that are beginning to add up that are going to run more contractors out of here. I do hope that NWA realizes soon that we do not need nor want to be Micro Managed.

I might add that we are getting eleven AMFA Boys that crossed from MSP.
 
Perhaps you are begining realize some of the reasons the mechanics walked. It was not just about the money, they were not nicknamed Northworst for nothing. Labor relations within NWA were always among the worst in the industry, and that was when times were good!

It does get a bit frustrating being supervised by idiots!!!!! Good luck!!!

As for those crossing the line, I have seen several posting with reference to jobs with NWA in DTW. So I do not believe there is a mad rush to return by the majority of those on strike!!!
 
gee PTO, you are just now finding out what a bunch of scum bum scum bags filthy rotten mgmt is at NWA? it didnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out. and if you do less fixing, the greater the chances of a major disaster happens.
 
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As for those crossing the line, I have seen several posting with reference to jobs with NWA in DTW. So I do not believe there is a mad rush to return by the majority of those on strike!!!
It has pretty much settled down. We get one or two every now and then, you are right there is no mad rush. There is a long list in MSP to cross but all the positions there are full. They have the option to come to DTW but they don't want to. I can say that I don't blame them one bit.

As far as the management deal goes this is coming from higher up the ladder. This is not coming from the lower levels that work directly with us. They do have to enforce it though.
 
Have you ever heard the term "If it isn't broke don't fix it."? Where do they get some of these guys from? NWA brings in a brand new workforce and basically gives them free reign to make this work. Well it did work, worked beyond anyone’s expectations for that matter. We came in here and kicked arse, that’s all there is to it. Well the NWA management team has been taking the reins and things are slowly turning south for us. We took our worst week for delays this year in April because management does not want us to greet the aircraft anymore. They want us to go out to the aircraft on an "on call basis." There are a couple of rumors as to why this is, I think it is a combination of both.

"We are short on manpower so go to the aircraft only when called." The problem with this is that many times if there is a write-up it is not sent to us across ACARS so we do not know there is a write-up until the next crew comes on board and calls us. By this time passengers are loading. So the problem immediately gets deferred or fixed with a delay. Same goes for anything found during the pilots walk around. We are losing precious ground time waiting on calls.

Next rumor, "We are finding too much wrong and trying to fix it or defer it, upper management thinks that if you don't see it, it isn't broke. A lot of the things that we find would not have been found by the pilot."

I didn't put much credit towards this one until one day after our horrible week of delays we took it upon ourselves to greet the aircraft and had a delay for an item we found. We were asked, "Who found the item?" No big deal right? That question was followed up with, "Why were you out there if you were not called?" :lol: I could not believe I was being asked that. They want us to sit out on a originating aircraft with a fresh Line Check for an hour in the event something goes wrong, but they do not want us to greet the inbound aircraft. It is silly things like this that gets under the skin of contractors and sends them on their way. When we greet the aircraft our delay count is low, when we don't greet it the delay count goes up. It's pretty much a no brainer as to which way you need to go with this.

Here's another good one. They have this new checklist for waking the birds up. It has a larger scope than a TA check that would have just been accomplished on the aircraft if not a Line check. :lol: This is just crazy.

There are a bunch of little things that are beginning to add up that are going to run more contractors out of here. I do hope that NWA realizes soon that we do not need nor want to be Micro Managed.

I might add that we are getting eleven AMFA Boys that crossed from MSP.
PTO,
Aren't you due to leave on another scab fishing trip hiatus?

We all hope so. :p
 
Well they say "Sh** rolls downhill" and guess what, you happen to be at the bottom. Been there done that, I remember the excuses from lower management saying the orders come from above but guess what, the are made to enforce or given the boot. Noticed over the years that the worst management have been ex union people!!!
 
We took our worst week for delays this year in April

I suspect the boards notorious bean counter will prove you to be wrong with those DOT statistics that we all know to be so factual... :rolleyes:

Have you ever heard the term "If it isn't broke don't fix it."?

Next rumor, "We are finding too much wrong and trying to fix it or defer it, upper management thinks that if you don't see it, it isn't broke. A lot of the things that we find would not have been found by the pilot."

Hmmmm...where have I heard this before.

Starting to sound like a third party hack shop has taken up residence over at the Red Tail... :lol:

I might add that we are getting eleven AMFA Boys that crossed from MSP.

Correction, your getting AMFA scabs that crossed the line, and they're as detestable as You!
 
well the third party hack 'n' shack shop has been up and running since amfa went on strike! just not sure when the shop will shut down for good!
 
I might add that we are getting eleven AMFA Boys that crossed from MSP.
It has pretty much settled down. We get one or two every now and then, you are right there is no mad rush. There is a long list in MSP to cross but all the positions there are full. They have the option to come to DTW but they don't want to. I can say that I don't blame them one bit.
So, which one is it Felix?
At 10:46 you were getting 11 AMFA MSP SCABS then...
At 11:22 you state that the guys from MSP have the choice to go to DTW, but they don't want to?????? :blink: :wacko:
Talk about oxymorons....
Maybe we are just talking MORON!!!!!!!!! :bleh:
 
So, which one is it Felix?
At 10:46 you were getting 11 AMFA MSP SCABS then...
At 11:22 you state that the guys from MSP have the choice to go to DTW, but they don't want to?????? :blink: :wacko:
Talk about oxymorons....
Maybe we are just talking MORON!!!!!!!!! :bleh:
You'll have to forgive the poor Sap, he's been known to display symptoms of MPD. It could be playtheodds typing for his other character keeptheodds.

I get this visual of the movie Me, Myself,& Irene, where jim carrey plays this character with MPD, Officer Charlie Baileygates/Hank Evans. Its funny but stupid at the same time.
 
So, which one is it Felix?
At 10:46 you were getting 11 AMFA MSP SCABS then...
At 11:22 you state that the guys from MSP have the choice to go to DTW, but they don't want to?????? :blink: :wacko:
Talk about oxymorons....
Maybe we are just talking MORON!!!!!!!!! :bleh:
But wasn't this kind of crap in the last contract negotiations where NORTHWORST can send you ANWYWHERE they want? (I thought I remember my Big Daddy telling me this) Well, if that's the case- they get what they deserve for crossing. <_<
 
Poor scabby PTO. The scum sucking weasel of a scab is now complaining about NWA management? PTO helped NWA management by scabbing and now he's crying because his management lovers are starting to stab him in the back? You made your bed with the enemy PTO, now why don't you just lie down in it and shut up! How does that hamburger taste,PTO?
 
there's an old saying that I think fits around here on this board,

YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.


PTO you wanted to work as a scab at a scab airline, well you got it!

Now quit your b!tch!n cause you got what you wanted!

You failed to listen to any of the UNION PEOPLE at SCAB AIR and ontis board. Tough luck and enjoy your ride down
 
there's an old saying that I think fits around here on this board,

YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.
PTO you wanted to work as a scab at a scab airline, well you got it!...
You failed to listen to any of the UNION PEOPLE at SCAB AIR and on this board. Tough luck and enjoy your ride down

Right again Robbed! I can't imagine the pressure these SCABs are under...make a mistake - no union protection, do something right but against management - no union protection, complain to loudly - no union protection. They actually thought that management saw them as "heroes", now they learn the hard truth...they're just a body, easily replaceable, of no lasting value...yep, SCAB says it all!
 

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