Michigan Right to Work

[delldude]

"At Will" means just that. truth is the boss can walk up to you and say "Jesus Christ that's an ugly necktie, you're fired" and there is precious little you can do.

But the odds on that.........do your job is the best defense against that.

 

[Ms Tree]

There is an interesting point often overlooked in this glass warfare/envy society.

Who is the easiest person to fire in a Publically traded company?

The CEO and Senior staff are. One vote one call from the board of Directors and Zip gone out you go. The mail clerk at least gets a change to their case and union workers have a little more protection.

Despite all of the union chest thumping, the company in question must be profitable in order to ensure job security for ALL workers.

Jeff Fetig
Huge Grant
Robert Bohn
Ian McCarthy

I am sure the mail clerk would be more than willing to swap places. By the way, if the company is not profitable it seems certain people are still secure. The mail clerk would not be one of them.

CEO's and executives typically do not have the same worries that the rank and file have.

 

[delldude]

The Mayan 2012 prophecy came true for labor bosses Tuesday night. Rick Snyder, the governor of a state known for its powerful industrial trade unions, signed right-to-work legislation into law. The Wolverine state becomes the twenty-fourth in the union to bar compulsory unionization.

 

[Ms Tree]

"At Will" means just that. truth is the boss can walk up to you and say "Jesus Christ that's an ugly necktie, you're fired" and there is precious little you can do.

Been there and done that. Had a flawless record, did my job very well but pissed off the wrong person.... bye bye.....

As I said earlier, unions as they are today may not be the answer but I know letting companies do as they choose is a bad alternative.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Jeff Fetig
Huge Grant
Robert Bohn
Ian McCarthy

I am sure the mail clerk would be more than willing to swap places. By the way, if the company is not profitable it seems certain people are still secure. The mail clerk would not be one of them.

CEO's and executives typically do not have the same worries that the rank and file have.

ALL 18,500 at Hostess are gone because the business wasn't vialble as in not making a profit.

 

[Ms Tree]

But how did the execs make out as opposed to the rank and file? Seems to me both sides had a hand in the failure but one said pays more for the failure than the other.

 

[delldude]

Say what you want in support of unions, but think they've put a deep nail in their coffin forever in the American non union eye after the recent shenanigans that are all over the net.
Do you really think Wal Mart employees would be wiling to sign on for something representative of good unionism as what has been transpiring in the last 48 hours?

This is your grassroots democratic party in action....no doubt what so ever.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Say what you want in support of unions, but think they've put a deep nail in their coffin forever in the American non union eye after the recent shenanigans that are all over the net.
Do you really think Wal Mart employees would be wiling to sign on for something representative of good unionism as what has been transpiring in the last 48 hours?

This is your grassroots democratic party in action....no doubt what so ever.

" A nail in the union coffin" .............
dellI is RIGHT !
Lets make NO mistake about this Michigan 'thing. Though I believe over time(some years) it 'could' be repealed, it nonetheless was a Big step backward for organized labor in the US, especially with the UAW in Michigan, more than anywhere else they are.

NOW, with that said, what has organized labor LEARNED from this. First and foremost, I doubt we'll EVER see this happen again in REAL union areas. (NO southwind, I'm NOT talking about GEORGIA being a REAL UNION area) !!!!
For example, Wisconcin. After this, Walker or NO Walker, I'd be SHOCKED if WI. (now) ever goes R T W.
This also will enbolden the rest of the Big Unions to be VERY Vigilant, especially in key areas like CA/OR/WA/MA/CT/RI/NY/NJ/MD/DE/IL/IA/PA/OH/MN/DC/VT/MT/CO/NM/NH/AK/HI/WI/KY/ME......... just off the top of my head.
(and there's 26 states right there) I mean, Who GIVES a SH!T if Idaho is RTW, or some Southern PIG STYE like Tennessee, I mean REALLY ???

 

[southwind]

Maybe Unions will have to earn your vote now, instead forced membership !

 

[UPNAWAY]

Anyone that thinks unions protect jobs is a fool, they kill jobs, they are an artificial barrier to labor. Now they do protect the jobs of the bad apples and the few at the very top but in overall numbers there are less employed in every union industry and company then would otherwise be employed, just basic economic facts people!

 

[Veritas777]

 

[RDU Jetblast]

Are right to work states also " at will" states? Do they go hand in hand or can states have one but not the other? We have both and I have confused them in an earlier post

 

[Dog Wonder]

Anyone that thinks unions protect jobs is a fool, they kill jobs, they are an artificial barrier to labor.

Do you thunk the entire Federal government should be unionized?

 

[UPNAWAY]

^ Absolutley not public sector unions should be illegal, talk about the Fox & the Hen House!

 

[UPNAWAY]

Free Rider issua & RTW. Is a complete strawman by the unions. They can write the contracts to cover memebrs only instead of entire job classifications.