Mechanics Have Reason To Be Upset

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On 5/16/2003 8:17:24 AM RV4 wrote:


What if the vote is NO?


Regardless, the law is law, the Constitution is the Constitution, and the By-Laws are the By-Laws!


Maybe you should review why the LMRDA was past into law to begin with...



Declaration of Findings, Purposes, and Policy

(29 U.S.C. 401)



SEC. 2. (a) The Congress finds that, in the public interest, it continues to be the responsibility of the Federal Government to protect employees'' rights to organize, choose their own representatives, bargain collectively, and otherwise engage in concerted activities for their mutual aid or protection; that the relations between employers and labor organizations and the millions of workers they represent have a substantial impact on the commerce of the Nation; and that in order to accomplish the objective of a free flow of commerce it is essential that labor organizations, employers, and their officials adhere to the highest standards of responsibility and ethical conduct in administering the affairs of their organizations, particularly as they affect labor-management relations.

(B) The Congress further finds, from recent investigations in the labor and management fields, that there have been a number of instances of breach of trust, corruption, disregard of the rights of individual employees, and other failures to observe high standards of responsibility and ethical conduct which require further and supplementary legislation that will afford necessary protection of the rights and interests of employees and the public generally as they relate to the activities of labor organizations, employers, labor relations consultants, and their officers and representatives.

© The Congress, therefore, further finds and declares that the enactment of this Act is necessary to eliminate or prevent improper practices on the part of labor organizations, employers, labor relations consultants, and their officers and representatives which distort and defeat the policies of the Labor Management Relations Act, 1947, as amended, and the Railway Labor Act, as amended, and have the tendency or necessary effect of burdening or obstructing commerce by (1) impairing the efficiency, safety, or operation of the instrumentalities of commerce; (2) occurring in the current of commerce; (3) materially affecting, restraining, or controlling the flow of raw materials or manufactured or processed goods into or from the channels of commerce, or the prices of such materials or goods in commerce; or (4) causing diminution of employment and wages in such volume as substantially to impair or disrupt the market for goods flowing into or from the channels of commerce.





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RV4, those are all nice quotes and as always you have done lots of digging. Unfortunately, the present administration will not see it in the nationsinterst to maintain the integrity or whatever of the union.

If you read what Bob Owens says you will find that he expects all the overhaul mechanics and as many others as necessary to fall on their swords for the integrity of the profession.

Would you please compare that to the attitudes of your favorite bete noir the communist? One and the same to me.

So you better check your welding rig and make sure the trailer is ready to roll, that may be the new future.
 
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On 5/18/2003 12:29:19 PM j7915 wrote:

RV4, those are all nice quotes and as always you have done lots of digging. Unfortunately, the present administration will not see it in the nationsinterst to maintain the integrity or whatever of the union.

If you read what Bob Owens says you will find that he expects all the overhaul mechanics and as many others as necessary to fall on their swords for the integrity of the profession.

Would you please compare that to the attitudes of your favorite bete noir the communist? One and the same to me.

So you better check your welding rig and make sure the trailer is ready to roll, that may be the new future.

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Those are NOT QUOTES!

That is data directly from LAW! Something the TWU has come to disregard!

If it is proven that your mentalilty is the majority, then Bob Owens is correct! And if I was in his shoes, I would be preparing an organized dump of your boat anchor attitude also!
 
Unfortunately, the present administration will not see it in the nations interst to maintain the integrity or whatever of the union.

And the last administration accomplished so much for labor. Where were they and the AFL-CIO last time?
 
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On 5/18/2003 1:56:27 PM Buck wrote:


Unfortunately, the present administration will not see it in the nations interst to maintain the integrity or whatever of the union.

And the last administration accomplished so much for labor. Where were they and the AFL-CIO last time?
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Cigars and Interns!
 
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THE FAILED TWU PLEDGE:


Sonny Hall's "TWU PLEDGE" from the International Presidents Column of the TWU Express Dated October 31, 2002 - Page 4....

"We will do whatever it takes to improve our members contracts and their security throughout the nation"

TWU INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT SONNY HALL
OCTOBER 31, 2002 TWU EXPRESS

Does Sonny Hall, James C. Little, and the rest of the dictators of the TWU think the following constitutes "improve our members contracts"?

17.5% Payscale reduction
Loss of 5 Paid Holidays
Loss of 5 Vacation Days
Loss of 7 Banked Sick Days per Year
First 2 Days of Sick paid at 50% per Occurance
Job Security Lifted and 3417 TWU Members Laid Off
Loss of Longevity Pay
Loss of Shift Differential Pay
Loss of Weekend Premium Pay
Loss of License/Skill Pay
Increased Medical Deductions from Paycheck

FAILED PLEDGE!

Mr. Hall talks about "outrageous greed" and "criminal behavior" being the test of "mettle" to the working folk. What about lifting the Job Security of your own workforce and allowing 3417 members to be laid off without a "credible vote" of the membership?

Talk About Criminal!
Below is the Screen Capture from the TWU Express Dated October 31st, 2002

twupledge.jpg



THE FAILED TWU PLEDGE

pledge

Pronunciation: (plej),
—n., v., pledged, pledg•ing.

—n.
1. a solemn promise or agreement to do or refrain from doing something: a pledge of aid; a pledge not to wage war.
2. something delivered as security for the payment of a debt or fulfillment of a promise, and subject to forfeiture on failure to pay or fulfill the promise.
3. the state of being given or held as security: to put a thing in pledge.
4. Law.
a. the act of delivering goods, property, etc., to another for security.
b. the resulting legal relationship.
5. something given or regarded as a security.
6. a person accepted for membership in a club, fraternity, or sorority, but not yet formally approved.
7. an assurance of support or goodwill conveyed by drinking a person's health; a toast.
8. Obs.
a. a hostage.
b. a person who becomes bail or surety for another.
9. take the pledge, to make a solemn, formal vow to abstain from intoxicating drink.

—v.t.
1. to bind by or as if by a pledge: to pledge hearers to secrecy.
2. to promise solemnly: to pledge one's support.
3. to give or deposit as a pledge; pawn.
4. to stake, as one's honor.
5. to secure by a pledge; give a pledge for.
6. to accept as a pledge for club, fraternity, or sorority membership.
7. to drink a health or toast to.

—v.i.
1. to make or give a pledge: to pledge for someone.
2. to drink a pledge; toast someone's health, success, etc.
 
Better yet here are three pieces from the TWU constitution, Little and the gang of greed have violated all of them.


Article II .Objects, Sub. (B)
To establish through collective bargaining adequate wage standards and retirement benefits, shorter hours of work and improvements in the conditions of employment for the workers in the industry.

Article XXIV Collective Bargaining and Contracts. Section2.
Any proposed agreement shall be subject to ratification by the members covered by such agreement.
Section 5
No officer, member, representative or agent of the International Union or of any Local Union or of any subordinate body of the International Union shall have the power or authority to counsel, cause, initiate, participate in or ratify any action which constitutes a breach of any collective bargaining contract duly entered into.


So when did Little get the authority to accept the second modified agreement with out a vote of the membership?

Why was there not a vote taken?

Why didn''t AA want a vote? Why would they threatened to go to BK if a vote was taken? Could it have been that it would not have gone the way they wanted? That the membership had seen this for what it is? A railraod job.

To all of you sheep out there what did they do remove your spine when you signed up at AA or are you management who have been lobotimized?

If you agree or not with the concessions is a moot point, the membership was not allowed to cast its vote on the matter, that is the point and the only point.
 
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On 5/18/2003 12:29:19 PM j7915 wrote:

If you read what Bob Owens says you will find that he expects all the overhaul mechanics and as many others as necessary to fall on their swords for the integrity of the profession.

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You forget that I''m Catholic, suicide leads to eternal damnation. I would never advocate suicide.

I would never expect anyone to fall on their sword, I expect them to swing them at our opponents.

You on the other hand expected everyone to surrender without a fight to save a company and its stockholders from C-11 reorganization.​
 
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Where did all the TWU defenders run off to?
 
MADAMT
Power yields nothing without a demand. It never has and never will. Fredrick Douglass.

-Power comes only from the barrel of a gun-
 
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On 5/20/2003 8:18:39 AM eolesen wrote:

I think they got a bit tired of the Bob & Dave Show after page 3....

Time to let this thread die off and start a new one.

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Yep, way to much truth here, start a new one! Who died and left you in charge?
 
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On 5/20/2003 2:58:08 PM RV4 wrote:

Yep, way to much truth here, start a new one! Who died and left you in charge?

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The same person who decided that whatever you post is the truth?
 
Maybe everybody left because there was no discussion, only circular rhetoric among a few people. I know it began to remind me of something else that is done in a circle.

We just left you to be masters of your own domain.

TANSTAAFL
 
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On 5/20/2003 4:03:33 PM eolesen wrote:


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On 5/20/2003 2:58:08 PM RV4 wrote:

Yep, way to much truth here, start a new one! Who died and left you in charge?

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The same person who decided that whatever you post is the truth?

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Actually I have been posting proof of TWU Lies! Not TWU truth!

I know it upsets you management types, that the companies toy union commonly known as the TWU is being brought to factual exposure. But that's too bad!
 

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