Hey, I talked to Glenda in the CLT office today. I asked her when Mike was going to resign his LEC position. She said he would do it at the BOD meeting, which she said was in Oct. I asked her if Ann would then move up to Pres.(from VP) and if Glenda would move to VP(from Sec.). She said yes. I asked her who would be nominated for the open position of Sec. then. She said they would do all three positions. Anyone know if they are just going to split the Sec. money between the two of them, or what will happen to that moeny? I also asked her where the time from all of the F/A's leaving on the VFLR II was going to go, as I think it should go to the ETB. That way everyone has an equal opportunity to pick up extra time. She said she thinks it should go to open time(thinking as a blockholder, who doesn't fly anyway). If it goes on the ETB, some of the trips get covered and if they don'y get covered, they go to open time/AIL anyway. I asked her aslo whrere Pref. Bid was, but we don't want to go there.
Mec President Resigns Early
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You know, I am so used to seeing abuse come from the Palace I just expect it.
It did not occur to me until just now------
this has GOT to be the first time I have ever seen a business tell its customers, in public, no less, to mind their own business.
I can offer no greater insight into why U is in BK (twice).!
It did not occur to me until just now------
this has GOT to be the first time I have ever seen a business tell its customers, in public, no less, to mind their own business.
I can offer no greater insight into why U is in BK (twice).!
Most of us(F/A's) realize that without Customers/PAX We don't have a job. Sure CCY has abused the HELL out of us. Also, some F/A's have had it easy for a long time, possibly not having other employment before becoming a Stew. So you have to forgive these folks. They know not what they say sometimes. Some have lost touch with what is really going on and are only looking at it from their point of view, and I respect their opinions, everyone has one, so we adjust accordingly. Our former LEC in CLT was just that way. He lost touch with a huge group of people, the whole CLT was that way. We had to plug the river HEARN.diogenes said:You know, I am so used to seeing abuse come from the Palace I just expect it.
It did not occur to me until just now------
this has GOT to be the first time I have ever seen a business tell its customers, in public, no less, to mind their own business.
I can offer no greater insight into why U is in BK (twice).!
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Art at ISP
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diogenes said:It did not occur to me until just now------
this has GOT to be the first time I have ever seen a business tell its customers, in public, no less, to mind their own business.
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Diogenes,
It's a first for me too, and just serves to make quiet little fairminded me see red. I cannot wait until this company is run by people who know what they're doing, and who do not consider both the employees and the customers the enemy.
Despite the mismanagement at CCY, the reason that my FFOCUS colleagues and I stay so loyal is solely due to you, the rank and file front line employees of US, who are truly the best this industry has to offer.
Keep it up folks, it is noticed and appreciated.
To the soon to be unemployed you know where---you reap what you sow....
Have a great weekend everyone.
FlyGuyBWI
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Just a note about a possible resignation by the CLT LECP.
A local council can operate with only 2 officers, no special election is required until there is only one sitting elected officer (look at BWI from 1997 until it closed). As for the $$$, there is not a given amount of pay assigned to any LEC Officer. The LECP oversee's the budget and decides who, if anyone, receives pay from AFA.
I have every confidence in Ann and Glenda. They will continue to do a great job for the CLT Flight Attendants.
A local council can operate with only 2 officers, no special election is required until there is only one sitting elected officer (look at BWI from 1997 until it closed). As for the $$$, there is not a given amount of pay assigned to any LEC Officer. The LECP oversee's the budget and decides who, if anyone, receives pay from AFA.
I have every confidence in Ann and Glenda. They will continue to do a great job for the CLT Flight Attendants.
N109UW said:
A union officer cannnot make more than their seniority can hold (at least they are not supposed to but a very few may have managed to some creative accounting with their expenses or as I have heard through banking their vacation. I am not sure how it is done, but I understand that Laura knows so ask her.)
Glenda is giving you the correct info. After the normal election process, the only time a subsquent election is required is when the number of covered positions is one or zero officers left. For example if both the Pres and VP are recalled then there will need to be an election even though the SEC is still in position. However, if just the Pres is recalled and both the VP and SEC positions are covered, the VP and SEC moveup to Pres and VP and an election to fill the then opened SEC position is not required.
Any FPL (Flight Pay Loss) that was going to the CLT SEC will not be used to increase the other officers FPL over and above the maximum of what their seniority can hold. It will most likely be used for new equipment or for training of local chairpersons etc. If any of the local budget is not used by the end of the year, I believe it does not carry over but is instead kept by AFA.
As far as I know, both Ann and Glenda are honest, hard working advocates for the flight attendants (although probably not as 'open' to reserve issues as they could be.)
A better question would be "Why is Mikey waiting for the BOD before doing the right thing? Why not turn the CLT seat over to Ann now so she would be able to fully represent the CLT FA's especialy since she is already doing the majority of the work?
What does BOD have to do with internal AFA US Airways business? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! If Mike is going to resign his CLT seat then he should do it ASAP so the CLT FA's have a FULLTIME LECP repreenting them at the local level, at the MEC level and at the BOD level.
From what I have heard, Mike is already drowning and has had to ask both Teddy and at least one other LECP (not Laura or Alin) to help him do the work he is being paid to do. (Note: He did not ask Laura for help, he just uses her to get his 'ego fix' and titles)
Mike is sooooo far over his head it is laughable.
Please notice that the recent MEC E-line was NOT signed by Mikey because he DID NOT WRITE IT. He had to get someone else to write it because he is swamped!
Teddy wrote all of the MECs and PIT elines and is still getting out more information through her PIT eline than Mike is through his MEC Eline.
If you are a U FA, regardless of which domicile you are based, you need to sign up for the PIT eline if you want to know what is going on.
Go to www.afausairways.org and sign up for the PIT eline. I promise you, you will have needed info long before it comes out in your base or through the MEC.
Even Management will tell you that Teddy wore them down over and over and over again as she won battle after battle.
Teddy has more energy than the pink bunny, Mikey has more ego than Napolean. One was good for the FA's the other will be their doom.
Mikey cannot handle CLT work much less the added work of the MEC AND the Merger Negotiating Committee AND the BOD Finance Committee.
Sorry, but this guy is dangerous to the flight attendants and to himself.
just a flight attendant said:
YOU REALLY do NOT want to open a Pandora's box here. Think I have been hard on you so far? It is NOTHING compared to what else I know and have been too nice to reveal to this point.
Yes, I am a Teddy supporter but only because she has proven herself to be a ferocious fighter for just causes and a protector of not only ALL the flight attendants but for ALL of labor.
You on the other need never worry about being on the receiving end of my support. The only thing you have proven is that you are a Management shill trying to destroy a fellow union rep just so your "good friend" in CCY can satisfy her need for vengence.
I do my research before I post and nobody gets my support or my respect unless & until they have earned it. But I do not expect that you will ever understand honor and morality.
As I read these near two hundred post on this particular thread, my thoughts seems to wonder to the thinking that there sure seems to be more than one poster's on here reaking of the stink of "insiders" Namely "Just_A_Flight_Attendant" funny how you only have a few post to your name yet know SOOOOO much info. Wonder if your real name is Laura???? 
Just a thought! ! !
Just a thought! ! !
songbirdstew
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Industry Observer said:
I certainly hope this matter is not soon forgotten---a letter from your file could be next. As far as telling pax to butt of of our business, this is an open forum.
You obviously forget who pays the money that gives you a pay check on the 15th and the 30th.
To all of our "customers/passengers" :
Your comments are more than welcome in my book. Sometimes it is you who has a better idea than our own employees as to what is going on.
EyeInTheSky
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Industry Observer said:
Wow, what neat guy you are! I bet you're a real cracker jack there in CCY. Yes, it is time to move on....for you since you weren't invited to the party in Tempe. Be that as it may, this won't be forgotten. The folks in Tempe are watching and taking notes.
PITbull
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abonny said:
Abonny,
This is the main reason for the resignation. If you start to lose support of even two members of the MEC, you are rendered ineffective on the MEC level. Management has to know that you have fierce support from the MEC. Once there is "seat envy", all starts to regress. And this started in June when the newly elect from PHL started to rumble the words of "recall" even way before this issue arose.
However, on the LEC level, one can be more influential to get what they need for their members.
No doubt!
USAirBoyA330 said:Your asking Piney to mind his own business?
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I think I would enjoy hearing his PAX vs. Customer bit. Has always seemed to me there is a slight misunderstanding as to how exactly the CUSTOMERS SHOULD be refered to....Maybe a quick "Piney refresher course" would do us all some good.
Abonny,abonny said:
Most of the Fa's in PHL don't Support Ms Albert. They know that she is in it for herself. I am sorry when your LECP hangs up on the Fa's that has got to tell you that the ELEVATOR doesn't go to the top floor with this chick. I wish EVERY Fa in PHL who have had isssues with this LECP go and sit in that office until Laura finally has to deal with us! She can't hang up on you when you are sitting in her office. Hell she can't even throw you out since WE as the MEMBERSHIP is paying for that office space! So my advice to any PHL Flight Attendant go in that office and ROCK Ms. Alberts world. Maybe by sitting there and making her uncomfortable she will do one of two things. 1. Straighten up and do her job or 2. Get off the pot so we can get someone in there to do the job! Maybe the Flight Attendants in PHL should all become Ellis Objectors. You would then see at that point Ms. Albert was only in it to not have to fly. She would run when she had no money coming in. You need to put the pressure on these LECPS to see who they actually have at heart. I think with Ms. Albert you would see she doesn't have the Fa's in heart at all. She has U at heart. I believe is a true Ethics Problems.
PITbull
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abonny said:
Abonny,
I think LGA Pres. and BOS along with the MEC VP and Sec/Treas are awsome and work very, very hard for the memberhip. They both have the biggest hearts for their members, passionate and protectors of the group. The LEC of LGA even went to manhattan to be a witness at an unemployment hearing for his member. Not many or very few would take the time out of their day and taxi it in to a hearing that takes up the entire day to help win a case that is outside of the collective bargaining agreement. Pretty special in my book.
Buddy, the MEC VP is the most senior on the MEC, 15 YEARS and has all the knowledge of running an MEC that is needed. He will assist MIke and get him through. Mike is like a fish flopping all over the place out of water. If he relies on Buddy, he will get though and become polished like the Ex MECP who relied on Buddy like a swiss watch.
The members are very fortunate to have LGA and BOS LECs that are basically new to the MEC but seem like they have been union reps for a century. Mark G. will take Teddy's place come Dec. and there is no finer human being on the planet than him to move up to Pres of Local PIT. He is unwaivering and he and Teddy fought side by side for 4 years.
I am not going to continue to comment on this thread. The MEC is divided for now and will eventually come together as they heal. The issues before the members are paramount and need to take precedent over any damn union rep past or present or any CCY letter.
All politics aside. These 3 will stay focused and hopefully will keep Mikey focused on the members to do his job. And Mike will most definitely have to rely on the MEC VP to help him through a transition.
We can vent for a little on this forum, and then, its time to just move on and focus on the real issues that effect all of labor here at U.
