McDonald's Could Double Wages For Employees

[Ms Tree]

I'm not sure what the preoccupation is with Mc-D's. There are industries that do not need to pay a huge salary. I think the minimum wage currently in effect is too low but I think it is silly to expect Mc-D's to double their salary.

Now if we were talking about retail stores and other industries, I think that would be a worth while discussion. I think as Costco has shown, there is a correlation between salary/benefits and employee quality. Walking into Costco and walking to WallMart and the difference is plain to see.

 

[eolesen]

You apparently have the same bias against Walmart that others have against McDonalds...

When I only need a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread, I'm certainly not going out of the way to a Costco, and despite what you want to say about the quality of the employees, I find Walmart employees just as courteous. The only issue I have with them is the quality of what they sell.

 

[xUT]

Not much brand verity at costco anymore. Everything is being branded by Kirkland.

 

[Ms Tree]

You apparently have the same bias against Walmart that others have against McDonalds...

When I only need a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread, I'm certainly not going out of the way to a Costco, and despite what you want to say about the quality of the employees, I find Walmart employees just as courteous. The only issue I have with them is the quality of what they sell.

I go to Costco for what ever I need. Whether it be for a gallon of milk or a complete shopping run. Looking at the surounding baskets I am not alone.

Yes I do have a bias against WalMart. I see how they treat their employees and how Costco treats their employees and I choose to support a company that treats their employees well. You apparently do not care.

 

[Ms Tree]

Not much brand verity at costco anymore. Everything is being branded by Kirkland.

Their MO is to carry two or three varieties of an item including the KS. The KS is usually rebranded name brand if not a Costco developex item (toilet paper).

 

[delldude]

I go to Costco for what ever I need. Whether it be for a gallon of milk or a complete shopping run. Looking at the surounding baskets I am not alone.

Yes I do have a bias against WalMart. I see how they treat their employees and how Costco treats their employees and I choose to support a company that treats their employees well. You apparently do not care.

You get an employee discount?

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Already proven to be a lie

Those figures are the total cost of providing those benefits, not what the beneficiaries receive.

Informative, and important, figures, but not when you lie about what what they really are and really mean.


Just like Mitt the dumbie claiming that Obama voters made up the 47% of Americans who paid no taxes. A nugget of truth turned into a huge, huge, lie in order to demonize the opposition.

And idiots believe it

Tree/IFly2/Whoever, I've read nothing that disproves the facts posted in the article. Maybe you could share the research that proves the article to be a lie.

 

[xUT]

Tree/IFly2/Whoever, I've read nothing that disproves the facts posted in the article. Maybe you could share the research that proves the article to be a lie.

They are pretty easy to call someone a lair without providing their own empirical data.
Of course, they didn't even read it.

The report link you posted said this:

In 1995, the Cato Institute published a groundbreaking study,

The Work vs. Welfare Trade-Off, which estimated the value of the full package of welfare benefits available to a typical recipient in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia. It found that not only did the value of such benefits greatly exceed the poverty level but, because welfare benefits are tax-free, their dollar value was greater than the amount of take-home income a worker would receive from an entry-level job.

Clearly it states what is available and not an aggregate of what actual benefits are paid.
I doubt that any one entity can nail down an accurate cost for a total average per state.

But let's see if they can...

B) xUT

 

[Ms Tree]

Tree/IFly2/Whoever, I've read nothing that disproves the facts posted in the article. Maybe you could share the research that proves the article to be a lie.

What article?

 

[Ms Tree]

They are pretty easy to call someone a lair without providing their own empirical data.
Of course, they didn't even read it.

The report link you posted said this:



Clearly it states what is available and not an aggregate of what actual benefits are paid.
I doubt that any one entity can nail down an accurate cost for a total average per state.

But let's see if they can...

B) xUT

Who did I call a liar?

 

[Ifly2]

I did

The article I referred to was an eralier headline splash that claimed welfare paid recepients $168 per day, when actually that was the total cost of the government providing those benefits/recepient/day.

The CATO study does through its methodology outline a possibility of its clainm being true, but is all based on the assumption that welfare recepients fit neatly into their model, without a single bit of data or reference to any thing thatmis actuallymhappening to anyone or what any one in the real world is actually receiving.

So yes, it is possible that welfare may pay that much, but they provide nomevidence that it is happening.

The lie is in the way that this complex exercise in modeling and supposition gets used, turned into a bumper sticker sized sound byte that, again, takes a nugget of truth and expands it into an ideological rallying point.

Yeah, it is a complex, expensive issue and most folks don't mind helping those whomtruly need it, and totally reasonably don't want to pay for waste and or abuse.

That does not dit on a bumper sticker, or in a 2 minute spot by one of the ranting heads.

 

[Ms Tree]

Who did I call a liar?

I get a -2 for asking who I called a liar? Really? Are you people 5 yrs old or something?

 

[delldude]

I get a -2 for asking who I called a liar? Really? Are you people 5 yrs old or something?

Watch the spacing between posting and replying.....you were previously replying to one/anothers posts less than a minute each. You are getting better.

 

[xUT]

Watch the spacing between posting and replying.....you were previously replying to one/anothers posts less than a minute each. You are getting better.

Keeping track is not a hard thing...
LOL

 

[Ms Tree]

OH. Now I get it. I thought Signals was the only idiot pursuing that argument. Carry on if that's what floats your boat.